The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to make sure he doesn’t get a gun.
CK86 (08-23-2017)
CK86 (08-23-2017)
Honestly, I don't think America will ever totally pull out of Afghanistan. Afghanistan doesn't have a government that can controls its country. It'll always be a terrorists safe haven.
It's better to have a group of troops ready to go on a seconds notice to respond rather than take days to arrange something. If you keep a sizable and credible force there, the terrorist groups won't be able to move back in.
CK86 (08-23-2017)
Thethe, a question for you, sir. You've been the No. 1 person here telling us if we don't destroy all of these radical Islamic terrorists, our society as we know it is going to disappear. While I agree we have been fledgling in Afghanistan for a long time and this "new" strategy is not much one at all, how do you propose to do this? It ain't gonna work just building a giant wall and keeping everyone darker than tan out and further isolating ourselves.
We can't win fighting this war alone.
I'm fine with withdrawing and allowing ISIS to form a new caliphate while encroaching on Russia/Chinas territory. Once we get their buy-in to this fight then we can do what is necessary to win.
We need to prevent immigration from these nations to us. Bottom line no excuses. If anyone can look at whats happened to Europe and not think that is the right approach then I feel sorry for how manipulated you have been by the leftist culture.
Natural Immunity Croc
Jaw (08-22-2017)
Pathetic Trump isn't pulling out. Draining the swamp my ass.
Just pulling another Obama
Tapate50 (08-22-2017)
i wonder how much fox news would be bitching if Obama spent nearly as much on travel as trump has so far. trump will eclipse Obama's 8-year total in 1. We also know how trump feels about a black person golfing vs himself.
CK86 (08-23-2017)
https://www.wsj.com/articles/emmanue...d/accounts-wsj
Less than four months after handing him the presidency in a landslide election win, voters are souring on a leader many hailed as a reformer who would help address Europe’s economic dilemmas and break down traditional ideological divides.
Unpopular budget cuts, accusations of an authoritarian approach and weeks of critical news coverage have sent Mr. Macron’s approval ratings in a downward spiral. The latest poll, published in mid-August by public opinion firm Harris Interactive, found that 37% of voters approve of him, down from 51% in July and 59% in June.
this
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ithdrawal-iraq
http://www.npr.org/2015/12/19/459850...g-isis-to-grow
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what gets lost is that in all of the reporting from 2011 there is no mention of ISIS or corresponding factions.
No mention of where all of those dismissed military personal were or what they did with their weapons.
Iran was the threat.
Iran as in the state of Iran.
I find the Monday morning QBing disingenuous. If we want to go back to lay blame for the birth of ISIS I think we'd be better served by taking Spring 2003 as the lesson.
1954 meddling in Iran
Post WWI and the partition of the Middle East for oil
Shock and Awe and all that.
Personally had I been Obama or Trump I'd have pulled out of Afghanistan day one
The question is, after both ran and to some degree won on doing just that, what changed both of their minds?
Last edited by 57Brave; 08-22-2017 at 09:03 AM.
The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to make sure he doesn’t get a gun.
Two separate things. The majority of those leaders are letting Europe go to ****. They're open borders are ruining thier countries and they're to stupid to admit it. You can't take those leaders seriously. They go against what I believe in politically.
Second, most of those same countries are dealing with ISIS and thier terrorist attacks within thier borders. Isis came from Iraq and they took safe refuge after O pulled out. Blaming O for that isn't wrong and it isn't a lie. Don't know why one could ever get upset if Blame is properly placed.
why did Obama pull out ?
Funny, not ha ha funny but, funny.
The same Sec of State that warned Bush 43 of going into IRaq in the first place was the same Sec o State that advised HRC to use private email server
Last edited by 57Brave; 08-22-2017 at 09:02 AM.
The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to make sure he doesn’t get a gun.
cajunrevenge (08-22-2017), CK86 (08-23-2017)