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    Why are we even negotiating with China if not having a deal is so great because we are raking in tariff money? Why is Trump literally begging China to make a deal with him if it would help China? I thought he was the President of the US and not the rest of the world? What happened to America first? Makes as much sense as China waiting for 2021 to have a Democratic President when they know Trump will be re-elected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunrevenge View Post
    Why are we even negotiating with China if not having a deal is so great because we are raking in tariff money? Why is Trump literally begging China to make a deal with him if it would help China? I thought he was the President of the US and not the rest of the world? What happened to America first? Makes as much sense as China waiting for 2021 to have a Democratic President when they know Trump will be re-elected.
    common sense from you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunrevenge View Post
    Why are we even negotiating with China if not having a deal is so great because we are raking in tariff money? Why is Trump literally begging China to make a deal with him if it would help China? I thought he was the President of the US and not the rest of the world? What happened to America first? Makes as much sense as China waiting for 2021 to have a Democratic President when they know Trump will be re-elected.
    it really boils down to one simple thing

    the president is really stupid
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    I cant believe you guys dont see the maliciousness of the Chinese state. We should stop dealing with them altogether. They are our enemies.

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    lol

    our economy with how it is built would collapse without China

    lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    lol

    our economy with how it is built would collapse without China

    lol
    Oh please explain

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    if you don't understand how intertwined out economies are

    then you are lost

    the short term fall out of just cutting ties would be catastrophic

    and who knows if it we would ever bounce back and if we did, it certainly wouldn’t be a right wing dream of it
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    if you don't understand how intertwined out economies are

    then you are lost

    the short term fall out of just cutting ties would be catastrophic

    and who knows if it we would ever bounce back and if we did, it certainly would be a right wing dream of it
    So basically you have no clue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    I cant believe you guys dont see the maliciousness of the Chinese state. We should stop dealing with them altogether. They are our enemies.
    For someone who’s generally so well-versed in how markets work, this is a bit of a head-scratcher. So when the signal of continued tit-for-tat tariff escalations are enough to knock a couple of points off the DJIA, what do you think it would look like if we just decided to stop trading with them altogether?

    The thing about this current trade “war” is that, while there is obvious pain and disruption on both sides, only one side has an accountability check every two years.

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    Remember that time nearly 30 years ago that Trump appeared on The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air. That proves he is not racist. 👀

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    Yeah it is clear to me that Trump is clueless when it comes to trade. He consistently says China pays the taxes, and consistently claims that trade deficits are money lost. the lack of understanding of the most basic concepts make it impossible to trust him in a trade war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Yeah it is clear to me that Trump is clueless when it comes to trade. He consistently says China pays the taxes, and consistently claims that trade deficits are money lost. the lack of understanding of the most basic concepts make it impossible to trust him in a trade war.
    That and the fact he encourages racism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acuña’s Bat Flip View Post
    That and the fact he encourages racism.
    Your obsession with race is really unhealthy

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Your obsession with race is really unhealthy
    The proof is in the pudding. I’m not going to ignore an important issue and hand out free passes to anyone when people are WRONGED!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Yeah it is clear to me that Trump is clueless when it comes to trade. He consistently says China pays the taxes, and consistently claims that trade deficits are money lost. the lack of understanding of the most basic concepts make it impossible to trust him in a trade war.
    China needs the US more than we need them. China is a corrupt country with a lot of IP theft. They need to be called out on that too, which Trump is doing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krgrecw View Post
    China needs the US more than we need them. China is a corrupt country with a lot of IP theft. They need to be called out on that too, which Trump is doing
    China does need the US for its economy, but I wouldn't say more. Without much concern for the short-term political ramifications, China can play the long game.

    The big question is, who is the least trustworthy, Trump or China? I'd say it's a tie. Neither's worth the paper it would be written on.
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    Trump's panicked trade kerfuffle with China wiped out over a trillion dollars worldwide in a couple of days. That's got to be a record.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    So basically you have no clue.
    Lol

    Sure, if that’s what ya want to believe.
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    The federal government spent $2,573,708,000,000 in the first seven months of fiscal 2019 (October-April), setting an all-time record for real federal spending in the first seven months of a fiscal year.
    And just like magic, all those republicans that said we could do good projects etc cause of too much spending are silent

    Cause they are frauds
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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    For someone who’s generally so well-versed in how markets work, this is a bit of a head-scratcher. So when the signal of continued tit-for-tat tariff escalations are enough to knock a couple of points off the DJIA, what do you think it would look like if we just decided to stop trading with them altogether?

    The thing about this current trade “war” is that, while there is obvious pain and disruption on both sides, only one side has an accountability check every two years.
    Chinas political system gives them an advantage for sure. But the US can buy goods elsewhere for higher amounts. China cant sell goods elsewhere. Thry absolutely need us more than we need them.

    Why are people ignoring chinas predatory practices?

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