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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Lol you weren't around during Roy Moore or Brett Kavanugh I guess
    Rape and sexual assault are illegal. Especially when they involve a minor like Moore.

    I like how you consider sexual assault of a minor equal to distasteful costumes or not knowing your family history.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    Rape and sexual assault are illegal. Especially when they involve a minor like Moore.

    I like how you consider sexual assault of a minor equal to distasteful costumes or not knowing your family history.
    LOL I suppose you're not paying attention to Mr. Fairfax.

    I'm shocked I tell you!

    Like I said, if the Dems played by their own rules they would all have resigned by now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    I think JFK was great too and his character was ****
    Why was JFK's character ****? Because he cheated on his wife?

    Big difference between sexual impropriety and being a constant liar and cheater.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    LOL I suppose you're not paying attention to Mr. Fairfax.

    I'm shocked I tell you!

    Like I said, if the Dems played by their own rules they would all have resigned by now.
    Fairfax should resign. But if Dems are the only ones playing by the rules, then the rules need to be changed. So I don't care. If Kavanaugh can have multiple women accuse him of rape and sexual assault, if Trump can have multiple women accuse him of rape and sexual assault, if Roy Moore can have multiple women say he molested/raped them when they were minors and still get 40+% of the vote, then the Dems should reevaluate if it's worth playing by the rules.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    Fairfax should resign. But if Dems are the only ones playing by the rules, then the rules need to be changed. So I don't care. If Kavanaugh can have multiple women accuse him of rape and sexual assault, if Trump can have multiple women accuse him of rape and sexual assault, if Roy Moore can have multiple women say he molested/raped them when they were minors and still get 40+% of the vote, then the Dems should reevaluate if it's worth playing by the rules.
    Well, Kavanaugh's accusers couldn't corroborate a single accusation unlike Fairfax.

    But good for you admitting that you odn't need to be any more moral than the moral high ground you pretend to have.

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    Remember how Trump was getting China in sucha great position

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Well, Kavanaugh's accusers couldn't corroborate a single accusation unlike Fairfax.

    But good for you admitting that you don't need to be any more moral than the moral high ground you pretend to have.
    So because someone couldn't remember the story of someone who didn't report a rape in high school 35 years ago, then we should assume that the victim wasn't raped? Even though she had discussed rape with therapists and other before hand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    So because someone couldn't remember the story of someone who didn't report a rape in high school 35 years ago, then we should assume that the victim wasn't raped? Even though she had discussed rape with therapists and other before hand.
    My position on this is very clear.

    We can't take someone down based on an accusation from 35 years ago with no evidence, no corroboration, and an ever changing story like Dr. Ford's.

    I'd have the same standards for Fairfax. But his accusers have already been more credible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    My position on this is very clear.

    We can't take someone down based on an accusation from 35 years ago with no evidence, no corroboration, and an ever changing story like Dr. Ford's.

    I'd have the same standards for Fairfax. But his accusers have already been more credible.
    Why because he's a dem?

    For what it's worth I consider both of them credible. But then again, I'm not tied to a party line like you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    Why because he's a dem?

    For what it's worth I consider both of them credible. But then again, I'm not tied to a party line like you.
    lol no because there are other people who have corroborated her story.

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    Also FWIW you won't take someone down based on an allegation from 35 years ago, but 15 is OK?

    Also remember that WaPo wouldn't originally run the story because they couldn't find someone to corroborate the story.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...=.a76148271e4f
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    you literally do not read

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    you literally do not read
    Me thinks you don't either. As you didn't read what I posted or the article I presume.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    Me thinks you don't either. As you didn't read what I posted or the article I presume.
    You mean the one from February 4th?

    How about the one from February 8th?

    LINK: Second woman accuses Virginia Lt. Gov. Justin Fairfax of sexual assault

    "Ms. Watson shared her account of the rape with friends in a series of emails and Facebook messages that are now in our possession," Smith said in the statement. "Additionally, we have statements from former classmates corroborating that Ms. Watson immediately told friends that Mr. Fairfax had raped her."

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    And you're not reading what I said, I think he should re-sign. I was just playing a touch of devil's advocate. And guess what, many dems are calling for him to re-sign. Which hoe many reps called for an investigation into Kavanaugh? Fairfax also passed the FBI background checks that were cited by Cavanaugh and Trump as faborable to them.

    ANd it's not like you waited to jump down Fairfax until Feb 8th. Which you konw, was yesterday.

    It's ok to admit you're moving the goal posts, everyone will forget this because you know, Trump will do something dumber than Presidential Harassment any time now.
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    Republicans don't give a whit about people who commit sexual assault. They were fine to put one on the Supreme Court and one in the White House. They have zero credibility on the issue. Less than zero.

    That said, Dems want all 3 of those to resign.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    And you're not reading what I said, I think he should re-sign. I was just playing a touch of devil's advocate. And guess what, many dems are calling for him to re-sign. Which hoe many reps called for an investigation into Kavanaugh? Fairfax also passed the FBI background checks that were cited by Cavanaugh and Trump as faborable to them.

    ANd it's not like you waited to jump down Fairfax until Feb 8th. Which you konw, was yesterday.

    It's ok to admit you're moving the goal posts, everyone will forget this because you know, Trump will do something dumber than Presidential Harassment any time now.
    hahahahahahaha I'm moving the goalposts?


    And you're not reading what I said
    Yes I did. You said I have different standards for Kavanaugh and Farifax because of party loyalty... when I was pretty darn clear why I have different standards (more credible accusations)

    I think he should re-sign
    OK. I didn't think he should until we had corroborated accusations which we supposedly have now

    I was just playing a touch of devil's advocate.
    lol

    And guess what, many dems are calling for him to re-sign. Which hoe many reps called for an investigation into Kavanaugh?
    Yes they are (and with the new corroborated accusations, they should)

    Many reps did as well (but they shouldn't have)

    Fairfax also passed the FBI background checks that were cited by Cavanaugh and Trump as faborable to them.
    I have no idea if that's accurate but also not sure why it is relevant. The reason it was cited for Kavanaugh because he was being accused of raping like 10,000 people at gang rape parties... You'd think that would have surfaced somewhere in the previous 35 years

    ANd it's not like you waited to jump down Fairfax until Feb 8th. Which you konw, was yesterday.
    I frankly haven't commented on Fairfax until this very discussion. I posted a tweet about the hypocrisy of the left not playing by its own rules with multiple examples, which apparently struck a nerve with zito

    It's ok to admit you're moving the goal posts,
    This is what someone says when they have clearly lost an argument

    everyone will forget this
    Everyone will forget what? That I showed you there is a very distinct difference bewteen the Kavanaugh and Fairfax accusations?

    Trump will do something dumber than Presidential Harassment any time now.
    Speaking of moving goalposts.

    But you're probably right.

    Trump has done a great job this week of not stealing the spotlight from the left's disastrous week though. Let's see how long he can resist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Runnin View Post

    That said, Dems want all 3 of those to resign.
    No they don't.

    Because that would be GOP in as governor.

    They were fine with calling for Northam's head when Fairfax was gonna step in. Now they're only calling for Fairfax, you may notice.

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