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    I'd love to hear some spitballing about why the hell Nigel Farage visited Julian Assange today. Seriously, wtf?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garmel View Post
    Besides Israel name one country in the Middle East that is a modern democracy.
    let's try again

    where have you been in the middle east?
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    let's try again

    where have you been in the middle east?
    I don't need to go to the Middle East to figure out there isn't one modern democracy in the area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garmel View Post
    I don't need to go to the Middle East to figure out there isn't one modern democracy in the area.
    it seems you haven't visited the middle east with this statement

    but let's try one more time

    Where have you been in the middle east?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    Maybe so, but it seems to me that there are more mainstream sources that provide a greater degree of context and objectivity, and those aren't the ones that get picked up by American media outlets with an anti-immigrant editorial viewpoint. So maybe a wider audit of the media spectrum would benefit all of us.
    Wide range of viewpoints is always essential in any debate. I never reject another view I may disagree but always welcome it. I think there is enough historical evidence to support that Muslims do not assimilate well. This doesn't mean all but it's hard to construct an argument that a large Muslim migrant population is ever good for a western society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    it seems you haven't visited the middle east with this statement

    but let's try one more time

    Where have you been in the middle east?
    Reality is hard to face isn't it, goldfly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garmel View Post
    I don't need to go to the Middle East to figure out there isn't one modern democracy in the area.
    I guess you're not a fan of Israel then.

    BTW. we aren't a democracy, in name or practice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    I guess you're not a fan of Israel then.

    BTW. we aren't a democracy, in name or practice.
    I mentioned Israel on the post before that one. Yes, I know. We're a republic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Alex Jones has been warning us that the government is spying on our every move for years.

    Each day, more and more **** comes out proving him right
    So did the TV show The Good Wife

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garmel View Post
    I mentioned Israel on the post before that one. Yes, I know. We're a republic.
    You guys do know that a republic IS a democracy, right? It's a representative democracy ala the House of Burguesses in Virginia and somewhat like ancient Rome, rather than a direct democracy ala ancient Athens and the town hall meetings of the New England colonies during colonial days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Alex Jones has been warning us that the government is spying on our every move for years.

    Each day, more and more **** comes out proving him right
    Did I miss some actual evidence about government spying on our every move? Maybe you can help me out with that.

    I guess chemtrails, lizard people, and Sandy Hook as a false flag has been proven right, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garmel View Post
    Reality is hard to face isn't it, goldfly?
    That you haven't been to the Middle East?

    No, I was willing to bet large amounts you haven't been to the Middle East

    I was just wanting you to admit it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garmel View Post
    I mentioned Israel on the post before that one.
    yes, we all noticed you mention Israel for no apparent reason and started talking about democracies after calling a whole region a **** hole for no reason
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    That you haven't been to the Middle East?

    No, I was willing to bet large amounts you haven't been to the Middle East

    I was just wanting you to admit it
    What does me or even you going to the Middle East have to do with anything? You do know what they say about anecdotal evidence, right? Anecdotal evidence isn't to be trusted so your opinion doesn't mean a thing. Once again, please show me a modern democracy in the Middle East besides Israel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garmel View Post
    What does me or even you going to the Middle East have to do with anything? You do know what they say about anecdotal evidence, right? Anecdotal evidence isn't to be trusted so your opinion doesn't mean a thing. Once again, please show me a modern democracy in the Middle East besides Israel.

    what does democracy have to do with being a **** hole or not?

    i'm just curious how you can act like your statement is true if you haven't gone there yourself. The middle east is a very interesting place and each country is different there.

    thus, why i think and willing to bet large you have never been there to experience anything about any of the countries or cultures to sit here and call other places ****holes.

    i think strip malls in the suburbs are ****holes with awful people in em. democracy or any other political system has no bearing on why i think that is a ****hole
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    yes, we all noticed you mention Israel for no apparent reason and started talking about democracies after calling a whole region a **** hole for no reason
    WTF? As I said you're either autistic or a complete ****ing moron. It's one of the two.

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    here is the whole interaction of this "debate". which is really just you saying something, not answering the question directed about your statement and bringing up Israel for no apparent reason:

    Quote Originally Posted by Garmel View Post
    I guess the people on this board can't figure out why the Middle East is a **** hole.
    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    where have you been in the middle east?
    Quote Originally Posted by Garmel View Post
    Besides Israel name one country in the Middle East that is a modern democracy.
    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    let's try again

    where have you been in the middle east?
    Quote Originally Posted by Garmel View Post
    I don't need to go to the Middle East to figure out there isn't one modern democracy in the area.
    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    it seems you haven't visited the middle east with this statement

    but let's try one more time

    Where have you been in the middle east?
    Quote Originally Posted by Garmel View Post
    Reality is hard to face isn't it, goldfly?
    Quote Originally Posted by Garmel View Post
    I mentioned Israel on the post before that one. Yes, I know. We're a republic.
    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    That you haven't been to the Middle East?

    No, I was willing to bet large amounts you haven't been to the Middle East

    I was just wanting you to admit it
    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    yes, we all noticed you mention Israel for no apparent reason and started talking about democracies after calling a whole region a **** hole for no reason
    Quote Originally Posted by Garmel View Post
    What does me or even you going to the Middle East have to do with anything? You do know what they say about anecdotal evidence, right? Anecdotal evidence isn't to be trusted so your opinion doesn't mean a thing. Once again, please show me a modern democracy in the Middle East besides Israel.
    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    what does democracy have to do with being a **** hole or not?

    i'm just curious how you can act like your statement is true if you haven't gone there yourself. The middle east is a very interesting place and each country is different there.

    thus, why i think and willing to bet large you have never been there to experience anything about any of the countries or cultures to sit here and call other places ****holes.

    i think strip malls in the suburbs are ****holes with awful people in em. democracy or any other political system has no bearing on why i think that is a ****hole
    Quote Originally Posted by Garmel View Post
    WTF? As I said you're either autistic or a complete ****ing moron. It's one of the two.

    yeah, i'm the autistic or complete ****ing moron here.

    but nice to know you would compare those 2 things as equal or nearly equal. says a lot about ya
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    what does democracy have to do with being a **** hole or not?

    i'm just curious how you can act like your statement is true if you haven't gone there yourself. The middle east is a very interesting place and each country is different there.

    thus, why i think and willing to bet large you have never been there to experience anything about any of the countries or cultures to sit here and call other places ****holes.

    i think strip malls in the suburbs are ****holes with awful people in em. democracy or any other political system has no bearing on why i think that is a ****hole
    Because modern nations value democracy and the rights of their citizens. Any country that doesn't isn't worth taking seriously. Culture? A large amount of the Middle East is either at war or living under a theocracy. Do you want me tell you the way they treat women or have little girls marrying men old enough to be their grandfather? Why do you think these people are leaving the Middle East nations in droves? Because it is a ****hole over there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    here is the whole interaction of this "debate". which is really just you saying something, not answering the question directed about your statement and bringing up Israel for no apparent reason:




























    yeah, i'm the autistic or complete ****ing moron here.

    but nice to know you would compare those 2 things as equal or nearly equal. says a lot about ya
    You're completely nuts, dude.

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