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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    No, I mean, in general ... do you think that good health is something that our society generally provides for?
    I think actual healthcare in this country is really good, and generally provides to those who are less fortunate. But I don't necessarily think society promotes good health.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
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    Yep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forever Fredi View Post
    Yep.

    That is why I wanted Public Option or Singlepayer.
    Agreed.

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    The elevation of Steve Bannon to the National Security Council was reportedly amplified by a copy-paste error

    President Donald Trump's decision to give Steve Bannon, the White House chief strategist, a major role on his foreign-policy team was amplified by a cut-and-paste error, according to a report from The New York Times.

    Trump's team reportedly did not specifically intend to elevate Bannon, a political appointee, above the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the director of national intelligence when crafting the January 28 memo that laid out the organization of the National Security Council.

    Trump's aides essentially copied language from President George W. Bush's organization chart, Trump administration officials told The Times' Peter Baker, not realizing that the Joint Chiefs chairman and the intelligence director were later made full members of the NSC's principals committee under the Obama administration.

    The principals committee, an interagency forum that deals with policy issues affecting national security, is usually reserved for cabinet secretaries and top military and intelligence officials, but the January memo elevated Bannon to a permanent position on the committee and removed the director of national intelligence and the Joint Chiefs chairman as regular attendees.

    The move was widely criticized as injecting politics into national-security matters.

    While the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the director of national intelligence weren't members of the principals committee under Bush — Obama added them in 2009 — Trump is the first president to include a political appointee as a permanent member of the NSC.

    The Times reported that Trump's national security adviser, Lt. Gen. H.R. McMaster, was considering restructuring the NSC to put the chairman of the Joint Chiefs and the director of national intelligence back on the principals committee.
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    To all of my friends on the left, if you read only one thing today...

    My favorite quote: "Stop calling us racists. Stop calling us idiots. We aren't. Listen to us when we try to tell you why we aren't. Oh, and stop making fun of us."

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    To all of my friends on the left, if you read only one thing today...

    My favorite quote: "Stop calling us racists. Stop calling us idiots. We aren't. Listen to us when we try to tell you why we aren't. Oh, and stop making fun of us."

    Major kudos to Sam Altman.

    I'm a Silicon Valley liberal, and I traveled across the country to interview 100 Trump supporters — here's what I learned

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    It's a rationalization because they can't come to grips that much of the free world rejects their views.
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    Quote Originally Posted by weso1 View Post
    You played the anecdotal card here, but I'm curious of your answer to the original question. Is health care a right?
    At the heart of it, I'm basically a subscriber to Roosevelt's four freedoms. In concrete terms, I do think that access to affordable, adequate health care is a right that should be provided as part of the social compact. For my entire adult life, as a young, healthy, and relatively well-off person, I've been a net payer into the system. Like I said, in the past year I've had the instructive experience of seeing it from another perspective. In concrete policy terms, I support a single-payer system or at least a robust public option as part of a hybrid system.

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    Trump just called CNN the Clinton News Network at CPAC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    Trump just called CNN the Clinton News Network at CPAC.
    He's spent the entire speech attacking the media. I guess we're not going to see the end of that anytime soon.

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    Good for trump. The media has been completely irresponsible for a while now. News anchors crying on air because trump won. What a joke.

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    If the "nedia" did their job they'd pound Trump everyday to disclose his tax returns allowing the country to learn who he owes. Or whether he is in fact the shrewd business man many of you think.
    Maybe learn how to go broke running a gambling casino.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    If the "nedia" did their job they'd pound Trump everyday to disclose his tax returns allowing the country to learn who he owes. Or whether he is in fact the shrewd business man many of you think.
    Maybe learn how to go broke running a gambling casino.

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    So you're making the point that the media hasn't been hard enough on trump?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    Trump just called CNN the Clinton News Network at CPAC.
    more whining from the so called commander in chief

    i'm sure it was eloquent too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    It's a rationalization because they can't come to grips that much of the free world rejects their views.
    such a weird statement.

    and makes it odder that you use all of the free world to make it

    cause much of the western free world rejects almost everything Trump and his klan is doing

    much less a majority in this country voted for the other person thus meaning, a majority here don't want it and this country is much more right wing than the free world

    remember, places in Europe and New Zealand etc call me conservative. let that sink in when saying the free world rejects "their" views
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    much less a majority in this country voted for the other person thus meaning, a majority here don't want it and this country is much more right wing than the free world
    A majority in this country <>who<> voted. That's only ~55% of the population. If you can provide accurate empirical information on precisely how the other 45% would have voted then I have a high six-figures job for you.

    If there's a legitimate backlash to Trump's policies amongst the electorate then we'll see that reflected in the mid-terms.

    Until then, no, you can't definitively state that 'a majority here don't want it' ... because you don't have the data to support that kind of claim, and you'll excuse me if I find that your sniff test doesn't quite pass muster.

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    And we will see just how much people care about these ancillary social justice issues if the economy continues to roar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by weso1 View Post
    I think actual healthcare in this country is really good, and generally provides to those who are less fortunate. But I don't necessarily think society promotes good health.
    I'm not talking about health care, per se.

    I'm talking about how our government 'looks out' (obviously, subject to debate, but at the very least we're told it's beneficial to us) for our good health; EPA, FDA, ATF, soda tax, etc.

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    Spicer didn't allow the NYT, CNN, BuzzFeed, or Politico into the press briefing this afternoon.

    This is going to get dirty.

    Edit: Dirtier, rather.
    Last edited by Hawk; 02-24-2017 at 02:42 PM.

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