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    The Hacks


    Leaked Snowden Document Hints At Why Feds Are So Sure Russia Hacked Election

    NSA apparently learned successful tactics tracking Russian cyberattack on murdered journalist Anna Politkovskaya.
    -Mary Papenfuss , The Huffington Post




    US intelligence officials appear certain that Russia was responsible for interfering in the presidential election — though they haven’t fully detailed how they know. But a classified document leaked by former National Security Agency contractor Edward Snowden reveals that they’ve tracked Russian hacking before and that the information they gleaned may have helped this time around.

    Russian hacking also occurred in the case of Russian journalist and American citizen Anna Politkovskaya, who was gunned down in 2006 in her Moscow apartment after writing articles critical of the Kremlin and Russian President Vladimir Putin. Five men were convicted of her murder, but it’s still a mystery who ordered the killing.

    A year before she was murdered, Politkovskaya’s email was hacked by Russian intelligence using malicious software not publicly available, according to an NSA document leaked by Snowden to The Intercept. Not only does the document reveal that U.S. intelligence knew about the hacking of Politkovskaya’s email, it also shows that the NSA is adept at tracking cyberattacks by Russian intelligence.

    The classified internal NSA entry indicates that the NSA was able to use “intercept signals” to pinpoint the source of the attack. The attacks on Politkovskaya’s email account resemble the hacks of Democratic National Committee emails during the campaign that were damaging to Hillary Clinton, and the NSA could have used the same tactics to track the source as it did in Politkovskaya’s case.

    Snowden tweeted earlier this year that NSA has the capability to track the source of such a hack. He cited Xkeyscore, a pre-Snowden secret computer system used by the NSA for searching and analyzing global internet data, that “makes following exfiltrated data easy. I did this personally against Chinese ops.”

    U.S. intelligence certainty about the hacks and the credibility of its analysis will be critical in the coming weeks as President-elect Donald Trump seeks to downplay any Russian interference in the U.S. presidential campaign. He has cast doubt on the intelligence community’s statement before the election that Russia was responsible for hacking and releasing the DNC communications. Officials have since said that they believe the attacks were ordered by Putin in a deliberate effort to sway the vote for Trump, who has frequently praised the Russian leader.

    Trump said Wednesday that it was time to “move on” and that it was impossible to know who was responsible for the leaks. On Thursday, Trump said he would meet with intelligence officials next week to discuss the issue but said again that “it’s time for our country to move on to bigger and better things.”

    President Barack Obama has struck back at Russia with a series of sanctions for the hacking and has called for Congress to be presented with intelligence reports on the cyberattacks.

    The Department of Homeland Security and the FBI on Thursday released a 13-page joint report providing some details of what the agencies know about the Russian attack.
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    Keep trying to be relevant. The Hag will or the Dems are not going to get into the WH in the next 8 years, deal with it.

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    Following the Links From Russian
    Hackers to the U.S. Election


    The Obama administration announced sanctions on Thursday against Russia and released a report that stated that the Russian government deployed computer hackers to attack the Democratic Party’s computers




    http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...T.nav=top-news
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post

    To classify this as espionage is pushing it way too far. I mean, dangerously and irresponsibly so. Now, could this debacle lead to that kind of behavior? Sure, and that's why we need to learn how to use passwords with letters, numbers, and symbols, and avoid phishing emails. We are in the stone age as a country when it comes to cyber security and general digital awareness.
    The report did not name hacked organizations or address previous conclusions reached by the Central Intelligence Agency and FBI, according to U.S. officials, that Russia sought to intervene in the election to help Trump defeat Clinton.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-us...source=Twitter

    What did they learn ?
    Who is in a blackmail-able situation

    The aove links reference Congressional races where they attempted manipulation
    How deep does this go.

    Has for instance Paul Ryan got a secret -- or that Utah Senator from 10 years ago that was caught in a bathroom
    We don't know

    Hawk anytime a state espionage agency taps into another states private correspondence it is for lack of a better word,espionage
    Not at all like Sturg leaning his GF was on Ashley Madison or my wife looking in my Amazon page to learn what I bought her for Christmas

    State vs State
    ......

    Even one state disrupting anothers elections is espionage
    from NYT



    The leaks fueled a rift in the Democratic Party

    The emails forced the resignation of Debbie Wasserman Schultz as chairwoman of the D.N.C. and added to the divide between supporters of Senator Bernie Sanders and Mrs. Clinton’s campaign.


    Even by my pedestrian knowledge of espionage tactics -- this is straight out of The Americans TV program
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    Dang, even got The Rolling Stone questioning this story. Link

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    Saw that - Go Noles

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    Still won't change election results.

    I don't mind Dumpster Fire getting impeached though, VP is a severe upgrade. As long as the Dems don't get the WH I am cool with anything they do with Dumpster Fire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
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    The Department of Homeland Security and the FBI on Thursday released a 13-page joint report providing some details of what the agencies know about the Russian attack.
    ...and Edward Snowden promptly (via Twitter) linked to two distinct expert analyses on said 13-page document demonstrating why it's total horsecrap, politicized malarky; consequently agreeing with the very guy (PEOTUS) that is least likely to ever pardon him for his crimes. Not that I care what Edward Snowden thinks. Just found it ironic.
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    Matthew Yglesias ‏@mattyglesias 14m14 minutes ago

    Trump has promised:

    * Tax returns
    * A press conference on conflicts
    * One on Melania's visa

    Why believe he'll deliver new hacking info?


    The writer left out the "secret information" on Obama's birth.
    Remember that


    the #emails, keep your eye on the ball
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    What he leaves out in the above tatement is the history. They had a puppet at the head of CIA and the administration cooked the info .
    to the chagrin of career CIA operatives.
    Comes back to Valarie Plame and Joe Wilson.

    I have little hope of Trump ever being called on his bull****.
    Bush and Cheney never saw a prion cell.

    Don't forget Judith Wilson's involvement.

    Problem here is, half of you were in Middle School when this happened and another 35 percent of you have no idea the history of the lead up to Iraq War .

    And as evidenced by the posters above, 85% they will take Trump's word for it.
    wanna buy a casino in Atlantic City Mr Shawg ????

    Because you know, she had an email server
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    Matthew Yglesias ‏@mattyglesias 34m34 minutes ago

    Once Trump replaces the CIA with the crack investigative team from his Obama birth certificate inquiry we'll find the real hackers fast.
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    Do we love Snowden or hate him? Or does it depend on whose allegiances are helped/hurt by what he's leaking in a given week?

    Just checking the pulse and all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    What he leaves out in the above tatement is the history. They had a puppet at the head of CIA and the administration cooked the info .
    to the chagrin of career CIA operatives.
    Comes back to Valarie Plame and Joe Wilson.

    I have little hope of Trump ever being called on his bull****.
    Bush and Cheney never saw a prion cell.

    Don't forget Judith Wilson's involvement.

    Problem here is, half of you were in Middle School when this happened and another 35 percent of you have no idea the history of the lead up to Iraq War .

    And as evidenced by the posters above, 85% they will take Trump's word for it.
    wanna buy a casino in Atlantic City Mr Shawg ????

    Because you know, she had an email server
    So since you are concerned what career cia operatives felt during the wmd fiasco are you equally concerned with the reports of fbi agents furious that Commey didn't indict HRC?
    Warm feelings guy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    So since you are concerned what career cia operatives felt during the wmd fiasco are you equally concerned with the reports of fbi agents furious that Commey didn't indict HRC?
    I am, thinking she deserved her day in court.

    Why do you think in the end they didn't indict ?
    .........................

    you spent the past year waxing poetic on how anxious you were for her to go away -- now she has you and a few others talk about her --- daily

    Your Clinton Derangement Syndrome is gotten kinda creepy
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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    I am, thinking she deserved her day in court.

    Why do you think in the end they didn't indict ?
    .........................

    you spent the past year waxing poetic on how anxious you were for her to go away -- now she has you and a few others talk about her --- daily

    Your Clinton Derangement Syndrome is gotten kinda creepy
    Just trying to keep you honest or at least try to open your eyes to your extreme partisanship.
    Warm feelings guy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Just trying to keep you honest or at least try to open your eyes to your extreme partisanship.
    No offense, bro, but come on: you best not throw stones on this score.

    (I should clarify—as I don't mean to pick on you, but when you call President Obama "arguably the worst president of all time" [it isn't really arguable: he has not been—nor was Bush II, for that matter], it makes it difficult to take your accusations of others' partisanship seriously.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Just trying to keep you honest or at least try to open your eyes to your extreme partisanship.
    you still haven't answered why with overwhelming evidence - they didn't indict.
    Once in the past 25 years
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Just trying to keep you honest or at least try to open your eyes to your extreme partisanship.
    On many issues I am partisan.

    Environment
    Womens choice
    Flint and the decay of the Rust Belt
    Voters Rights
    Civil Rights
    Religious Freedom for all
    etc etc etc
    That happens to align with (D) and is counter to (R) platform

    I do not support a great deal of the foreign policy espoused by (D) and see kinda eye to eye with isolationists of other political schools of thought
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