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    Quote Originally Posted by Individual-1 View Post
    I don't think you quite understand how chain migration works. They don't just let anyone blindly in.
    Then please enlighten me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    He offered MORE DACA then the Democrats proposed but wanted to take out Chain Migration and VISA Lottery. Who balked at that?
    Like I said, the master dealmaker should have been able to get something done. The wall was his holy grail when he campaigned. Goes to show you how much he really cared about it once he got into office.

    This is the same guy who wrote on twitter that Nominating Gorsuch to the bench was a big accomplishment/achievement. The same guy that nominated tons of unqualified candidates to federal benches, convinced his base that nominating a justice was a huge obstacle to overcome. It's his constitutional duty to nominate a judge and other than Kavanaugh, Presidents usually get their picks in pretty smoothly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Then please enlighten me.
    my personal example is my mother and siblings and i came over when she re-married an American...when she became a citizen she sponsored her over 80 year old mother (my grandmother) and her sister (who came over with her daughter who was a minor at the time)...her brother (my uncle) came over as an asylum applicant and was in fact denied after being here for several years and had to go back...i think the system works fine in regards to being able to sponsor immediate relatives
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    Obama risked a lot more politically caving in to the GOP during the Grand Bargain negotiations than Trump has during this "national emergency".

    Boehner was ready to jump in with Obama but the freedom caucus and the other tea party types wanted nothing to do with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Individual-1 View Post
    Like I said, the master dealmaker should have been able to get something done. The wall was his holy grail when he campaigned. Goes to show you how much he really cared about it once he got into office.

    This is the same guy who wrote on twitter that Nominating Gorsuch to the bench was a big accomplishment/achievement. The same guy that nominated tons of unqualified candidates to federal benches, convinced his base that nominating a justice was a huge obstacle to overcome. It's his constitutional duty to nominate a judge and other than Kavanaugh, Presidents usually get their picks in pretty smoothly.
    Well considering Judges was one of the two reasons he got elected he should tout those. And overcoming the Clinton/Media machine was a huge accomplishment. The supreme court justices are the long lasting symbol of that accomplishment.

    And you are going to blame Trump for Kavanaugh not being smoothly? Well, thats something...
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    my personal example is my mother and siblings and i came over when she re-married an American...when she became a citizen she sponsored her over 80 year old mother (my grandmother) and her sister (who came over with her daughter who was a minor at the time)...her brother (my uncle) came over as an asylum applicant and was in fact denied after being here for several years and had to go back...i think the system works fine in regards to being able to sponsor immediate relatives
    What was the reason he was denied?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Well considering Judges was one of the two reasons he got elected he should tout those. And overcoming the Clinton/Media machine was a huge accomplishment. The supreme court justices are the long lasting symbol of that accomplishment.

    And you are going to blame Trump for Kavanaugh not being smoothly? Well, thats something...
    Even Turtle McConnell warned Trump several times that there were other candidates that could get through the nomination process with no issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    What was the reason he was denied?
    i don't know...he had a good case...he was involved in politics and after a coup people on his side basically had all their property expropriated...i think maybe he couldn't prove he was in danger of being physically harmed...i don't remember the standards...but he definitely had good reason to get out of Dodge
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    Quote Originally Posted by Individual-1 View Post
    Even Turtle McConnell warned Trump several times that there were other candidates that could get through the nomination process with no issues.
    I'd imagine there are always more 'electable' candidates in any nomination process. There was absolutely no reason why Kavanuagh should have been stonewalled like he was but it was a 2020 presidential audition and not a supreme court nomination process. They cared so much about his 'transgressions' that you haven't heard a word about it since he was nominated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    i don't know...he had a good case...he was involved in politics and after a coup people on his side basically had all their property expropriated...i think maybe he couldn't prove he was in danger of being physically harmed...i don't remember the standards...but he definitely had good reason to get out of Dodge
    Well I'm sorry that happened to him and hope that he had good fortune afterwards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Well I'm sorry that happened to him and hope that he had good fortune afterwards.
    no...he was quite bitter about the whole thing (in part because the party he supported was pro-American and the one that took over after the coup was pro-communist, so he felt let down)...and by then he was sick with lung cancer and just wanted to go home to die
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    no...he was quite bitter about the whole thing (in part because the party he supported was pro-American and the one that took over after the coup was pro-communist, so he felt let down)...and by then he was sick with lung cancer and just wanted to go home to die
    Sounds like a terrible situation and I'm sure that is one of many stories that result in bad rejections. THe system needs to get righted for sure.
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    not comparable in the least. Israel is surrounded ny a ****load of people who want to kill Jews.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunrevenge View Post
    not comparable in the least. Israel is surrounded ny a ****load of people who want to kill Jews.
    The whole point is that the Wall makes countries safer.

    There can be no disputing this point.
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    something something illusion of safety something something government fearmongering. something something being played like a fiddle.
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