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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunrevenge View Post
    Africans?

    LOL

    Lets talk about civilized people that know better. Our customs go back 100's or 1000's years and that is why blacks still have a stigma against gays. Ask the Illinois Black Caucus and their ban on gay marriage and why Obama had to promise them something to pass it. Of course he reneged on it.

    Epic fail on your part. I want WHITE participation as you can't count my race as a verification.

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    First off i cant stop laughing at a black man ****ting all over Africans. From my own experience the Africans I have met here in the US were so much nicer than the average American black person. I will get what you eant though, I got sidetracked by someone calling me a Hillary supporter on reddit.





    Since I already know how you will respond to that video here are Christian parents disowning and then beating their son for being gay.







    And just for fun




    I should have been a televangelist. Its apparently legal to defraud stupid people for money so long as you pretend its about religion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunrevenge View Post
    1. Why do they only thank women? Pretty sure there were a lot of men who advocated and advanced womens rights too.



    2. Rights for almost everyone has improved greatly over the last 100 years. Pretty much only rich white people had any sort of rights. Some had them in theory but if you cant afford a lawyer to enforce those rights they dont mean much.



    3. The reason women didnt have those rights are because people vote based on their own sense of morality that is heavily influenced by their upbringing instead of based on liberty and what was constitutional. Too few people have the critical thinking skills required to overcome the propoganda and indoctrination they grew up with. We look at Nazi Germany and say "how could the German people let this happen" while at the same time supporting the American Holocaust.

    4. CEOs, athletes and actors get paid based on their worth. Ronda Rousey was the highest paid MMA fighter because she was the biggest draw. Thus is basic capitalisim. I have yet to meet a person who thinks women should make less than men. I do however meet a whole lot of people who think a male doctor with 10 years of experience who graduated from Harvard should make more than a female doctor with 4 years of experience who graduated from the University of Houston. Even if they are doing the same job. From all of my working experience I have never come across one female that was paid less. In fact when I was a manager my highestbpaid employee was female because she did the best job. She even made more per hour than the 2 shift managers I had.


    Wage gaps in my estimation effects around 5% of working women and is mostly in high end jobs. Instead of generalizing this I want women to point out where they get paid less. Show me a female doctor in Houston with equal qualifications and I will join their protest against it.


    5. I dont have full rights overy body either. I strongly believe in the privacy of ones body. In fact I support a constitutional amendment stating that we all have the right to privacy of our own body and that no personal decisions we make in regards to our body can be criminilized unless there is a victim or intended victim.


    6. Men lack reproductive rights too. If a woman rapes a man and becomes pregnant he is still liable for child support. If a woman lies about being on birth control he is still liable for child support. Men rarely get custody in court of their kids. Its so biassd against men I have even seen a case where they deny the father custody because he has a job and the mother doesnt because they said would have more time to spend with the kids. Try arguing that logic as an unemployed father. Theres also the issue of parental alienation where women deny fathers from being in their kids lives when they seperate just because she doesnt like him anymore. Its a real issue and I have seen a lot of good men destroyed because their ex wife uses their kids to hurt them. Few things infuriate me more than an ex wife denying from seeing their kids the turn around and tell their kids that their father doesnt want to be a part of their life. It happens a lot and few people give a **** because mens rights is a dirty word.




    7. Sexual attraction is natures way of ensuring we procreate to keep the species going. Everyone is judged based on their looks. We all do it and there is a logical reason we do it. Its weird because most men would love to get cat called or told by women how good they look. How many women out there wont date a short guy or any number of other things. There are no straight men in this world who give two ****s what brand purse you have or what brand your clothes are. Thats all women who do that ****.



    8. Atleast domestic violence against women is considered to be terrible. Most people find women abusing men to be funny. How many mens shelters are there for abused men? Try telling your friends or family yoir wife abuses you and see what happens. See if you get the concern and help a woman would get in that same situation. Its considered socially acceptable for women to hit men. We raise our boys specifically tellimg them not to hit women which implies that hitting boys is okay.



    9. I would say gay men are more stigmatized than lesbians. Transgender is both a mens and womens issue because if you are TG you either were born a man or want to be a man.



    10. This person clearly lacks any insight into what goes on in schools because normal behavior by boys is increasingly becoming criminilized.


    11. I can see someone is pretty from looking at them. You actually have to talk to them to determine how smart they are. If given a choice of either being incredibly pretty and below average intelligence or incredibly smart with below average intelligence?



    12. I am willing to support maternity leave up to a point. First kid sure. Second kid maybe. Third kid your really pushing it. I am pro life so I am willing to help if you make a mistake but I dont want to encourage people to have kids they cant afford. I used to manage HUD houses in Brenam and Lake Summerville Texas, I have seen 18 year old girls purposely get pregnant to get benefits.



    13. Everyone should have some kind of protection if they are walking alone at night. There are parts of Houston I wont go to because I am white because I know my chances of being robbed or hurt is significantly increased. This is just basic common sense.


    14. Pretty sure Singapore allows prostitution. The availability of porn and prostitutes for men to get their rocks off always decreases rape.



    15. Just because something isnt 50/50 does not mean one side is discriminated against. Men make up the vast majority of workplace deaths. If I use feminists logic that is proof men are being discriminated against. Wheres the campaign to end the gender gap work place deaths. Where is the campaign to the gender incarceration gap? If the incarceration rates were reversed this dip**** would have included it as proof women are disadvantaged. Either they have to acknoledge that ther are diffrences between men and women that cause these variations or they have to accept that men are discriminated against in those situations.

    16. I am broke but if any women want to go to the womens paradise of Rwanda or Cuba I will find them someone to finance it for them.



    17. I would never tell someone to think of themselves as a victim. You want to march for rights go right ahead but the victim mentality is not a good thing to have. I dont but that women are disadvantaged anymore. There are areas they are, there are areas men are. Some of it is because of natural diffrences. We all have the same rights but we are not all born equal. I wasnt born with the talent of LeBron James, that doesnt mean I am discriminated against. There are physical and emotional diffrences between men and women. There are outliers but on average a man is physically superior to women.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AerchAngel View Post
    Africans?

    LOL

    Lets talk about civilized people that know better.
    Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the person who really just missed the point.

    Think about it for like 10 seconds. What do Christians in Africa and Muslims in the middle east have in common?

    I'll be back to hear the hilarious dodge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    I spent the week traveling the country. I work in the education industry - and basically everyone I com across is anti-Trump... which is fine by me.

    I met 6 different people this week who participated in women's march. I asked them legitimately what they were hoping to achieve - and the answers were as pathetic as 57's.

    Essentially, they were marching for abortion - as far as I can tell. But the official answer was "equal rights" and "not to be disrespected"

    Imagine if they could filter that energy into something productive... like help the homeless.
    It's **** like this that got Trump elected. The white male with lack of empathy.

    Women want to keep the rights they have. Sure abortion is one. Access to birth control is another. Representation in higher levels of society (aka breaking the glass ceiling) But they're also marching for rights of others. LGTBQ community, Indigenous people, minorities,

    And even if they're protesting just for abortion, is that any different than the Tea Party protests, which were protesting taxation, which Obama didn't raise for the overwhelming majority of Americans and who's protests seemed to mainly be protesting against the blackness of our president with a muslim sounding name.
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    This country is so confusing; I can't keep up with all the marches.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gilesfan View Post
    This country is so confusing; I can't keep up with all the marches.

    Does everyone get a march except for straight white males?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunrevenge View Post
    1. Why do they only thank women? Pretty sure there were a lot of men who advocated and advanced womens rights too.
    Why does this matter to you? Why does recognition matter to you? It's easier for a someone in the majority to relenquish power or fight for rights of others than for minorities. The reason you hear about black people in civil rights more than white people is because they had more to lose. How many white people were killed, or arrested on bogus charges? I'm guessing the answer is small. That's not to downplay the role men had in women's rights, but it's also not to say it matters that we know and acknowledge who they are.

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    2. Rights for almost everyone has improved greatly over the last 100 years. Pretty much only rich white people had any sort of rights. Some had them in theory but if you cant afford a lawyer to enforce those rights they dont mean much.
    Largely true, but improved rights don't mean equal rights or that the struggle is over.

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    3. The reason women didnt have those rights are because people vote based on their own sense of morality that is heavily influenced by their upbringing instead of based on liberty and what was constitutional. Too few people have the critical thinking skills required to overcome the propoganda and indoctrination they grew up with. We look at Nazi Germany and say "how could the German people let this happen" while at the same time supporting the American Holocaust.
    The reason women didn't have the rights afforded to men was because of them being viewed as not equals. To this day they aren't viewed as equals, just the gap is narrowing. You're right that it's societal issues that need to be overcome.

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    4. CEOs, athletes and actors get paid based on their worth. Ronda Rousey was the highest paid MMA fighter because she was the biggest draw. Thus is basic capitalisim. I have yet to meet a person who thinks women should make less than men. I do however meet a whole lot of people who think a male doctor with 10 years of experience who graduated from Harvard should make more than a female doctor with 4 years of experience who graduated from the University of Houston. Even if they are doing the same job. From all of my working experience I have never come across one female that was paid less. In fact when I was a manager my highestbpaid employee was female because she did the best job. She even made more per hour than the 2 shift managers I had.


    Wage gaps in my estimation effects around 5% of working women and is mostly in high end jobs. Instead of generalizing this I want women to point out where they get paid less. Show me a female doctor in Houston with equal qualifications and I will join their protest against it.
    This one is pretty silly. And I won't really matter because your argument as are others is an effective strawman. I can point to women making more, or less, and it would be just that a strawman. You're right, experience does matter, but realize that we live in a society that's still largely patriarchal and it's really ****ing hard for a woman to have a career and a family, but really easy for a man because of what's been set up.

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    5. I dont have full rights overy body either. I strongly believe in the privacy of ones body. In fact I support a constitutional amendment stating that we all have the right to privacy of our own body and that no personal decisions we make in regards to our body can be criminilized unless there is a victim or intended victim.
    I agree here. But the vagueness of your wording would lead to a ell of a legal quagmire.

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    6. Men lack reproductive rights too. If a woman rapes a man and becomes pregnant he is still liable for child support. If a woman lies about being on birth control he is still liable for child support. Men rarely get custody in court of their kids. Its so biassd against men I have even seen a case where they deny the father custody because he has a job and the mother doesnt because they said would have more time to spend with the kids. Try arguing that logic as an unemployed father. Theres also the issue of parental alienation where women deny fathers from being in their kids lives when they seperate just because she doesnt like him anymore. Its a real issue and I have seen a lot of good men destroyed because their ex wife uses their kids to hurt them. Few things infuriate me more than an ex wife denying from seeing their kids the turn around and tell their kids that their father doesnt want to be a part of their life. It happens a lot and few people give a **** because mens rights is a dirty word.
    If a woman rapes a man and the man presses charges I'm pretty sure he vacates any responsibility for the upbringing of the child. Though that could vary state by state. There is an issue with custody, because of the patriarchal status of our nation and the belief that a man can't be motherly and nurturing. There are issues with BC, but realize, it's still on the man. Just cause she says she's on BC doesn't mean you have to bust in her. I mean STI alone is enough reason to wrap it up. And if it's someoen you're in a long term committed relationship with, you should know their habits. Sure there are women and men who can change on a dime and decide to so it but that's not the norm. A man who busts inside a woman he doesn't know or barely knows deserves to pay child support as a stupid tax.

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    7. Sexual attraction is natures way of ensuring we procreate to keep the species going. Everyone is judged based on their looks. We all do it and there is a logical reason we do it. Its weird because most men would love to get cat called or told by women how good they look. How many women out there wont date a short guy or any number of other things. There are no straight men in this world who give two ****s what brand purse you have or what brand your clothes are. Thats all women who do that ****.
    Everyone is judged on their looks, but women are typically valued on their looks. Men are as well, it's much easier to get a job and a better paying job as an attractive male/woman regardless of qualifications, it's been more or less proven there's a bias towards physical attraction. Most men wouldn't love getting cat called. I'm sorry but aside from the really vain men, they wouldn't. And there are women who like being catcalled. But, because some people like it, doesn't make it acceptable.

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    8. Atleast domestic violence against women is considered to be terrible. Most people find women abusing men to be funny. How many mens shelters are there for abused men? Try telling your friends or family yoir wife abuses you and see what happens. See if you get the concern and help a woman would get in that same situation. Its considered socially acceptable for women to hit men. We raise our boys specifically tellimg them not to hit women which implies that hitting boys is okay.
    There aren't many men's shelters out there because men aren't abused as often as women. I do agree that females who abuse males should be stigmatized in a way that they aren't.Typically it's done in a less physical way and a more emotional way. The last sentence is garbage.

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    9. I would say gay men are more stigmatized than lesbians. Transgender is both a mens and womens issue because if you are TG you either were born a man or want to be a man.
    I would 100% disagree. While gay men are probably more stigmatized than lesbians in the male community, I don't see men going around and defending the rights of lesbians though. Men fantasize about the hot or even better lipstick lesbian, but the butch or the overweight lesbian won't get a look. Not to mention the issue of lesbians being hit on. I know few women whov'e hit on a gay man and said they weren't gay or continued to hit on them. I know way more men who have. One of my friends was harassed by a dude so bad that we had to leave the bar we were in or the guy was gonna assault her in some way.

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    10. This person clearly lacks any insight into what goes on in schools because normal behavior by boys is increasingly becoming criminilized.
    Nope. Literally jsut last year a "boy" raped a woman and didn't get any jail time or registered as a sex offender. The "boys will be boys" mentality is still going strong in the country.

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    11. I can see someone is pretty from looking at them. You actually have to talk to them to determine how smart they are. If given a choice of either being incredibly pretty and below average intelligence or incredibly smart with below average intelligence?
    Well, this wasn't a fully hashed out thought, I do them all the time so I won't pick on you. The issue isn't telling if someone is pretty. it's basing their value on that. I've been guilty of it before. Lusting after someone only to find out they're just the worst. Not even intelligence related or anything, just that they don't even remotely mesh with me.

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    12. I am willing to support maternity leave up to a point. First kid sure. Second kid maybe. Third kid your really pushing it. I am pro life so I am willing to help if you make a mistake but I dont want to encourage people to have kids they cant afford. I used to manage HUD houses in Brenam and Lake Summerville Texas, I have seen 18 year old girls purposely get pregnant to get benefits.
    Maternity leave is something that should be provided by the government as a form of assistance. IIRC FMLA already basically lock themselves in to not losing their job. So the company wouldn't have to provide benefits and you get a set amount of money per week you don't work for up to 3 months. As far as multiple kids, that doesn't really matter to me. You're right some people get pregnant to gain benefits, but they're not doing themselves any real favors. On the flipside I had a friend who had an abortion because she had really bad judgement. She debated having the kid for those benefits and didn't because of the responsibility, the added costs, etc.

    Add in as well the "value" aspect. A single mother has much less value in the dating game than a single woman without kids. There are tons of drawbacks that really aren't overwhelmingly or even partially overcome by the advantages afforded by the government.

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    13. Everyone should have some kind of protection if they are walking alone at night. There are parts of Houston I wont go to because I am white because I know my chances of being robbed or hurt is significantly increased. This is just basic common sense.
    It is common sense. but protection doesn't stop predators. It only can help you stand a chance of survival.

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    14. Pretty sure Singapore allows prostitution. The availability of porn and prostitutes for men to get their rocks off always decreases rape.
    That's just silly. Vegas has brothels but rape still occurs there. Rape isn't about the availability of getting your rocks off. It's about power. Rapists are ****ty people who you almost certainly won't be able to stop from raping. Rapists are scum and should be locked away. And yes I consider women who falsely accuse (not falsely identify mind you, that's usually due to ****ty police work) someone of raping them should be penalized as well.

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    15. Just because something isnt 50/50 does not mean one side is discriminated against. Men make up the vast majority of workplace deaths. If I use feminists logic that is proof men are being discriminated against. Wheres the campaign to end the gender gap work place deaths. Where is the campaign to the gender incarceration gap? If the incarceration rates were reversed this dip**** would have included it as proof women are disadvantaged. Either they have to acknoledge that ther are diffrences between men and women that cause these variations or they have to accept that men are discriminated against in those situations.
    Men make up the majority of workplace deaths because they're drawn to professiosn that are riskier. The valuation of employment is the issue with thewage gap. As someone said (sturg?) a healthy chunk of the wage gap is because women go into fields like education and men go into engineering, well who's to say that education shouldn't be more important and teachers shouldn't be paid much more?

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    16. I am broke but if any women want to go to the womens paradise of Rwanda or Cuba I will find them someone to finance it for them.
    This is just silly and chippy

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    17. I would never tell someone to think of themselves as a victim. You want to march for rights go right ahead but the victim mentality is not a good thing to have. I dont but that women are disadvantaged anymore. There are areas they are, there are areas men are. Some of it is because of natural diffrences. We all have the same rights but we are not all born equal. I wasnt born with the talent of LeBron James, that doesnt mean I am discriminated against. There are physical and emotional diffrences between men and women. There are outliers but on average a man is physically superior to women.
    We all don't have the same rights though. That's the issue. Don't get me wrong, you're right that men are disadvantaged in some ways and they should fight for those rights as well. But women are often flat out told they can't do things, men rarely are. It's a societal issue that needs to be fixed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krgrecw View Post
    Does everyone get a march except for straight white males?
    Tea Party says Hi. Also didn't Beck organize some kind of Rally against Obama's blackness?

    And if you have a right you feel like you're losing, march for it.

    If Hillary was elected a lot of straight white males would be marching. All you need to know that is realize that MRA exists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    Tea Party says Hi. Also didn't Beck organize some kind of Rally against Obama's blackness?

    And if you have a right you feel like you're losing, march for it.

    If Hillary was elected a lot of straight white males would be marching. All you need to know that is realize that MRA exists.


    Tea party was mostly older white people of both sexes.


    You're an idiot if you think white males would had marched if Hillary was elected. No one would had marched.

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    "Men make up the majority of workplace deaths because they're drawn to professiosn that are riskier. The valuation of employment is the issue with thewage gap. As someone said (sturg?) a healthy chunk of the wage gap is because women go into fields like education and men go into engineering, well who's to say that education shouldn't be more important and teachers shouldn't be paid much more? "

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krgrecw View Post
    Tea party was mostly older white people of both sexes.


    You're an idiot if you think white males would had marched if Hillary was elected. No one would had marched.
    You're so diluted it makes me feel bad. Listen to the man's longtime advisor Roger Stone

    "If there’s voter fraud, this election will be illegitimate, the election of the winner will be illegitimate, we will have a constitutional crisis, widespread civil disobedience, and the government will no longer be the government," Stone said. He also promised a "bloodbath" if the Democrats attempt to "steal" the election.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    You're so diluted it makes me feel bad. Listen to the man's longtime advisor Roger Stone

    "If there’s voter fraud, this election will be illegitimate, the election of the winner will be illegitimate, we will have a constitutional crisis, widespread civil disobedience, and the government will no longer be the government," Stone said. He also promised a "bloodbath" if the Democrats attempt to "steal" the election.

    Only people that should had marched were Bernie supporters because Hillary stole the election from them.


    White men wouldn't had marched if Hillary one. That's insane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acesfull86 View Post
    The laws of supply and demand.
    You'd have a point if the risky jobs got paid more. Job with the most deaths in the US is loggers who's average income is about 38K. Second is fishing industry, average salary of 29K,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krgrecw View Post
    Only people that should had marched were Bernie supporters because Hillary stole the election from them.


    White men wouldn't had marched if Hillary one. That's insane.
    Sure, keep telling yourself that bub.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    You'd have a point if the risky jobs got paid more. Job with the most deaths in the US is loggers who's average income is about 38K. Second is fishing industry, average salary of 29K,
    That wasn't his point

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    That wasn't his point
    Well his point sucked regardless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    Well his point sucked regardless.
    His point that positions that have fewer people to do them will get paid more, sucked?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    You'd have a point if the risky jobs got paid more. Job with the most deaths in the US is loggers who's average income is about 38K. Second is fishing industry, average salary of 29K,
    https://www.stlouisfed.org/on-the-ec...lity-insurance

    The authors found that workers in riskier occupations, while less educated than those in safe occupations, were paid relatively well. After controlling for education and other demographics, workers in risky occupations made $5,000 more per year compared with workers with similar education and demographic characteristics.


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    That's one link off the St Louis Fed (which is trying to answer a different question but so be it). I'd be interested in seeing the economic literature that suggests what you're arguing, that riskier jobs don't pay more, all things being equal.

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