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    As I've implied or stated outright several times during this discussion, the same "free market" has ensured that people with a leftist viewpoint are shut out of mainstream editorial pages and publications, too.

    What does this say to you about the efficacy of that market...or are you going to stick with the idea that one side should be heard from not the other?

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    But, to expand on your point about markets and mobs…The Atlantic is not the US government. They are under no obligation to be fair and equitable, beyond their legal obligations in hiring, etc. What if the "Twitter mob" represents enough of their base of subscribers or clickers to change their mind about an editorial decision? Whether you feel like that's cosmically right or wrong--or whether or not I do--how are you going to deny that it is an exercise in market economics?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    But, to expand on your point about markets and mobs…The Atlantic is not the US government. They are under no obligation to be fair and equitable, beyond their legal obligations in hiring, etc. What if the "Twitter mob" represents enough of their base of subscribers or clickers to change their mind about an editorial decision? Whether you feel like that's cosmically right or wrong--or whether or not I do--how are you going to deny that it is an exercise in market economics?
    I'm not denying that. You read what you want to see

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    The end game of capitalism is the free exchange of goods and services between consenting parties.
    Those are the conditions under which capitalism argues it needs to operate, or operates best; but that is not the "end game". The "end game" is the accumulation of capital; and the reality is that holders of capital are best positioned to accumulate capital, which in turn means that, under capitalism, capital tends to be consolidated to the holders of capital (and thus power to the powers-that-be).

    This isn't even a moral claim—we can debate whether those conditions and that "end game" are good or bad, right or wrong; whether it tends to net benefit society, or net impoverish—it's just the basic definitions and contours of capitalism. Parties are motivated to seek profit (in the form of capital); you believe that such motivation places parties on an even playing-field (when "free exchange" is maximally free), maximizes personal liberty (through "consent", in the form of property rights and actions), and best produces new technologies and innovations. That's fine—that's your position. But it doesn't alter the fact that the "end game" of capitalism is not "free exchange of goods and services between consenting parties", but the accumulation of capital thereby.

    I disagree with your position (obviously)—in no small part because I think: (a) the "freedom" of exchange is directly indexed to the amount of capital one possesses: labor that possesses little to no capital is only "free" to exchange their labor, at whatever rate capital (and not labor) deems fit; and (b) there is "consent" in name only for labor, vis-ŕ-vis participation in the system: certainly I've never been apprised of an opt-out, whereby I might withdraw my "consensual" participation in the capitalist system and still be allowed to maintain any semblance of life/liberty/pursuit of happiness.
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    college official just taking the lead from our president it seems
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Dude, I think you've tapped into the NFL's disciplinary committee.

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    Julio make self-destruct when he's not able to invoke the "free market reply" here


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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Julio make self-destruct when he's not able to invoke the "free market reply" here

    No, this is just going to be another in the alternating series of laughs/groans/eyerolls at the latest in a series of inconsequential or mischaracterized things you tell us we should be very concerned about.

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    If you offend students, we will question.

    Best to keep your mouth shut if you don't have any groupthink to say

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    If you offend students, we will question.

    Best to keep your mouth shut if you don't have any groupthink to say
    Quite a bit of that going around.


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    yeah, let's imagine that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    Quite a bit of that going around.

    Quite pathetic.

    But our current political climate encourages this type of retribution. I don't think it's healthy. Clearly you do

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Are the Scouts doing this because of pressure from nasty SJW or as a pragmatic shift in the interest of self-preservation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    Are the Scouts doing this because of pressure from nasty SJW or as a pragmatic shift in the interest of self-preservation?
    We both know the answer and we both know you won't admit it

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    Tell me Julio, is UT treating masculinity as a mental illness as a pragmatic shift in the interest of self preservation?

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