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    What if <shudders> the company feels that coming from a marginalized background/viewpoint and/or adding diversity to the staff is a qualification, and thus is a part of constituting who is "most well qualified"?

    Is it a company’s job to be as inclusive or is it the company’s job to make money and go with the best performers it has?


    You would never say that the Braves should put a Jew or Muslim on the roster for diversity reasons so why should any company?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krgrecw View Post
    Is it a company’s job to be as inclusive or is it the company’s job to make money and go with the best performers it has?


    You would never say that the Braves should put a Jew or Muslim on the roster for diversity reasons so why should any company?
    It's the company's job to run itself, not yours, buckaroo. If they believe that being more inclusive is the way to recruiting the best performers and/or fostering the best performance, then why is it so troubling to all y'all?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpx7 View Post
    What if <shudders> the company feels that coming from a marginalized background/viewpoint and/or adding diversity to the staff is a qualification, and thus is a part of constituting who is "most well qualified"?

    I think that is a fantastic idea, as long as they aren't discriminating on the basis of age, race, gender, or sexual orientation to do it.

    You weren't suggesting that they should discriminate based on any of those factors were you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpx7 View Post
    It's the company's job to run itself, not yours, buckaroo. If they believe that being more inclusive is the way to recruiting the best performers and/or fostering the best performance, then why is it so troubling to all y'all?
    Because that’s discrimination. Giving preferential treatment to others based on race or sexual orientation isn’t right.

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    http://www.fox5dc.com/news/local-new...rican-american

    Court records show the man accused of spray-painting a swastika inside a residence hall at the University of Maryland in September is African American.

    University of Maryland police say 52-year-old Ronald Alford Sr. was served a criminal summons on Thursday and faces several charges including destruction of property and disturbing the operations of a school. Alford will not be allowed back on campus.



    This part of the article is gold:

    Students were surprised to learn someone who is a member of a race which has been historically oppressed is accused of the hate-related incident.

    "I guess it proves that you don't have to be a certain race to hate people, but I mean, it's just you would think that someone, especially from a race that has been subjected to hate before, you would think why would you want to reciprocate that to somebody else," said student Abby Gorun.


    Yep. Reasoning skills like that were still good enough to get into the U of Maryland.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Krgrecw View Post
    Because that’s discrimination. Giving preferential treatment to others based on race or sexual orientation isn’t right.
    Somehow I don’t doubt you believe this, but I also believe you would not come to the defense of minorities or LGBT who were discriminated because of their status.
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    Before you buy your kids a Halloween costume, make sure it is politically correct:






    For more clarity, seek guidance at the link below:

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    Life must be good when these are the complaints people have today. I think it would be hilarious to see people dressed as a generic white guy for halloween. Then I have My costume set for life.
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    http://dailysignal.com/2017/10/13/co...orthodoxy/amp/

    A Boise State University professor recently learned what happens when you challenge left-wing social narratives on college campuses.

    Scott Yenor, a tenured professor, has been under siege on campus after publishing articles with The Heritage Foundation and The Daily Signal about feminism and the transgender movement.

    In those articles, Yenor explained the similarity in philosophy between the early feminists and modern transgender movement and how they aim at undermining traditional family values.

    He wrote in a Daily Signal article on Aug. 2:

    Transgender rights activists are seeking to abridge parental rights by elevating the independent choices of young children. Respecting the sexual and gender “choices” of ever-younger children erodes parental rights and compromises the integrity of the family as an independent unit.
    In response, students, activists, and even staff members at Boise State are now waging a relentless campaign to get Yenor fired or shut down.


    A petition to have Yenor fired—which has now gained thousands of signatures—has been passed around on campus. Activists have posted flyers attacking him, and some have called for other faculty to come out and officially condemn him.

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    This seems like a reasonable decision. Why research something that doesn't exist?

    http://www.thedartmouth.com/article/...arch-institute
    Dartmouth closes the Gender Research Institute

    The Gender Research Institute at Dartmouth has been closed, according to GRID director Annabel Martín. Martín wrote in an email statement that she is uncertain how long the institute will be closed and $30,000 has been allocated for gender-related research in the interim period. Although Martín did not specify the reason for GRID’s closing, she wrote that the decision surprised all faculty involved in the process.

    College spokesperson Diana Lawrence wrote in an email statement that GRID was funded in 2013 with a one-time grant for four years, and that the grant has now been spent.

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    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/06/o...=tw-share&_r=1

    Given the genuine severity of the Trump threat, some readers of this essay may wonder, why devote energy to picking over the virtue and solidarity signaling of the left? Quite simply because getting this kind of thinking wrong exacerbates the very inequality it seeks to counteract. In the most memorable sentence in “The First White President,” Mr. Coates declares, “Whereas his forebears carried whiteness like an ancestral talisman, Trump cracked the glowing amulet open, releasing its eldritch energies.”

    I have spent the past six months poring over the literature of European and American white nationalism, in the process interviewing noxious identitarians like the alt-right founder Richard Spencer. The most shocking aspect of Mr. Coates’s wording here is the extent to which it mirrors ideas of race — specifically the specialness of whiteness — that white supremacist thinkers cherish.

    This, more than anything, is what is so unsettling about Mr. Coates’s recent writing and the tenor of the leftist “woke” discourse he epitomizes. Though it is not at all morally equivalent, it is nonetheless in sync with the toxic premises of white supremacism. Both sides eagerly reduce people to abstract color categories, all the while feeding off of and legitimizing each other, while those of us searching for gray areas and common ground get devoured twice. Both sides mystify racial identity, interpreting it as something fixed, determinative and almost supernatural. For Mr. Coates, whiteness is a “talisman,” an “amulet” of “eldritch energies” that explains all injustice; for the abysmal early-20th-century Italian fascist and racist icon Julius Evola, it was a “meta-biological force,” a collective mind-spirit that justifies all inequality. In either case, whites are preordained to walk that special path. It is a dangerous vision of life we should refuse no matter who is doing the conjuring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaw View Post
    This seems like a reasonable decision. Why research something that doesn't exist?

    http://www.thedartmouth.com/article/...arch-institute
    Dartmouth closes the Gender Research Institute

    The Gender Research Institute at Dartmouth has been closed, according to GRID director Annabel Martín. Martín wrote in an email statement that she is uncertain how long the institute will be closed and $30,000 has been allocated for gender-related research in the interim period. Although Martín did not specify the reason for GRID’s closing, she wrote that the decision surprised all faculty involved in the process.

    College spokesperson Diana Lawrence wrote in an email statement that GRID was funded in 2013 with a one-time grant for four years, and that the grant has now been spent.
    Nobody argues it doesn't exist, just that a lot of what qualifies as "gender" (i.e. a lot more than just biological sex characteristics) is socially constructed. Big difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaw View Post
    http://dailysignal.com/2017/10/13/co...orthodoxy/amp/

    A Boise State University professor recently learned what happens when you challenge left-wing social narratives on college campuses.

    Scott Yenor, a tenured professor, has been under siege on campus after publishing articles with The Heritage Foundation and The Daily Signal about feminism and the transgender movement.

    In those articles, Yenor explained the similarity in philosophy between the early feminists and modern transgender movement and how they aim at undermining traditional family values.

    He wrote in a Daily Signal article on Aug. 2:

    Transgender rights activists are seeking to abridge parental rights by elevating the independent choices of young children. Respecting the sexual and gender “choices” of ever-younger children erodes parental rights and compromises the integrity of the family as an independent unit.
    In response, students, activists, and even staff members at Boise State are now waging a relentless campaign to get Yenor fired or shut down.


    A petition to have Yenor fired—which has now gained thousands of signatures—has been passed around on campus. Activists have posted flyers attacking him, and some have called for other faculty to come out and officially condemn him.
    "Agree with us or we will burn down your building, or ensure you get fired"

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    I somehow hadn't read Ta-Nehisi Coates' latest excerpt before today. He's a guy that normally makes me think but appears to have just gone off the deep end this time.

    For Trump, it almost seems that the fact of Obama, the fact of a black president, insulted him personally. The insult intensified when Obama and Seth Meyers publicly humiliated him at the White House Correspondents’ Dinner in 2011. But the bloody heirloom ensures the last laugh. Replacing Obama is not enough—Trump has made the negation of Obama’s legacy the foundation of his own. And this too is whiteness. “Race is an idea, not a fact,” the historian Nell Irvin Painter has written, and essential to the construct of a “white race” is the idea of not being a ******. Before Barack Obama, ni---rs could be manufactured out of Sister Souljahs, Willie Hortons, and Dusky Sallys. But Donald Trump arrived in the wake of something more potent—an entire ni---r presidency with ni---r health care, ni---r climate accords, and ni---r justice reform, all of which could be targeted for destruction or redemption, thus reifying the idea of being white. Trump truly is something new—the first president whose entire political existence hinges on the fact of a black president. And so it will not suffice to say that Trump is a white man like all the others who rose to become president. He must be called by his rightful honorific—America’s first white president.

    It is regrettable that Mr. Coates is so unaware of Republican's dislike of federal health care when the Clintons were pushing it, climate economics when Gore was pushing it, and general belief in harsher criminal sentencing over the past several decades.

    Perhaps if someone makes him aware of those things, he will stop viewing all of the opposition to Obama's agenda through such a narrow, racial prism.

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    Now THIS is racist:

    https://www.cnbc.com/2017/10/17/dr-d...d-america.html

    'Dr. Doom' Faber: 'Thank God white people populated America'


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    Moyers: You quote the German writer Wahrhold Drascher, whose book was titled Supremacy of the White Race: “Americans took care to guarantee that the decisive positions in the leadership of the state would be kept in the hands of Anglo-Saxons alone.”

    Whitman: Yeah, that’s what he said. And the Nazis, in their interpretation of the American theme, thought that they were seeing concerns parallel to their own in Germany. What they were worried about in the early stages was precisely that Jews might take over Germany, so the Jews had to be kept out of government, out of the legal profession, and out of any other situation in which they might exercise what the Nazis always called influence. The Nazis used exactly the same language in discussing the situation of American blacks.

    Moyers: You quote one prominent Nazi lawyer who admired the Democratic Party of the South for using “racist election law” to build a one-party system.

    Whitman: Yes. And the Nazis weren’t the only ones to notice this. Other observers too, including much more palatable ones, looked at the South and saw what they thought was the creation of a one-party system very similar to what was emerging in fascist Europe.


    ...

    Whitman: Well, many of them said exactly what American observers still say today, what political scientists will say today — that there were two competing currents in American law: on the one hand, a commitment to universal equality, but on the other hand, a deeply racist tradition, which the Nazis often called the realistic racism of the United States. They liked to think of themselves as realists and they admired the realist racism of the United States too.


    http://billmoyers.com/story/hitler-a...nazi-race-law/
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    Moyers: And Adolf Hitler writes in Mein Kampf: “The racially pure and still unmixed German has risen to become master of the American continent and he will remain the master as long as he does not fall victim to racial pollution.”

    Whitman: That was Hitler, alright. And he was not the only one. Other authors and political leaders on the far right spoke in similar terms. One Nazi writer described the founding of the United States as “the fateful turning point in the Aryan struggle for world domination.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forever Fredi View Post
    Somehow I don’t doubt you believe this, but I also believe you would not come to the defense of minorities or LGBT who were discriminated because of their status.
    I would if you show me a genuine case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaw View Post
    Before you buy your kids a Halloween costume, make sure it is politically correct:

    For more clarity, seek guidance at the link below:

    http://blogs.stthomas.edu/linkages/2...appropriation/

    If you prefer to learn in person, a Social Justice workshop may be more to your liking:

    https://www.eri.ucsb.edu/sites/www.e...ropriation.pdf

    https://www.usi.edu/housing/events-c...coming-events/
    I'm not sure why you think this is so risible. This sort of minstrelry, and the loaded history of oppression and degradation it encodes, it seriously hurtful to people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaw View Post
    http://dailysignal.com/2017/10/13/co...orthodoxy/amp/

    A Boise State University professor recently learned what happens when you challenge left-wing social narratives on college campuses.

    Scott Yenor, a tenured professor, has been under siege on campus after publishing articles with The Heritage Foundation and The Daily Signal about feminism and the transgender movement.

    In those articles, Yenor explained the similarity in philosophy between the early feminists and modern transgender movement and how they aim at undermining traditional family values.

    He wrote in a Daily Signal article on Aug. 2:

    Transgender rights activists are seeking to abridge parental rights by elevating the independent choices of young children. Respecting the sexual and gender “choices” of ever-younger children erodes parental rights and compromises the integrity of the family as an independent unit.
    In response, students, activists, and even staff members at Boise State are now waging a relentless campaign to get Yenor fired or shut down.


    A petition to have Yenor fired—which has now gained thousands of signatures—has been passed around on campus. Activists have posted flyers attacking him, and some have called for other faculty to come out and officially condemn him.
    I don't agree with Mr Yenor, but (as I've said countless times) I also strongly disagree with this sort of witch-hunting—especially on a university campus. It's not ultimately productive of good discourse.
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