Political Correctness

[jpx7]

It is regrettable that Mr. Coates is so unaware of Republican's dislike of federal health care when the Clintons were pushing it, climate economics when Gore was pushing it, and general belief in harsher criminal sentencing over the past several decades.

Perhaps if someone makes him aware of those things, he will stop viewing all of the opposition to Obama's agenda through such a narrow, racial prism.

Lol. Come on, man.

You can disagree with Coates—that's fine, I often do—but don't stoop to presuming he's "unaware" when he frames his claims. He's well aware of recent Republican history, but he's making a point about why it's so important for then-candidate and now-President Trump to attach President Obama's name, specifically, in his attempts to dismantle and abnegate these policies.

Also: your NYT author quoted above re Coates would be wise to not equate Coates' "recent writing" to "leftist discourse", considering many on the left don't find Coates' frequent rejection of economic-material base causes of suffering to be particularly of "the left".

[Julio3000]

Yeah, just to be an amen chorus here...

First, in the vein of my usual chidings of thethe and sturg about "the left," it's worth noting that TNC is usually subject to significant critique by the actual left.

And while I find those critiques off and hit the mark, I still find him a worthwhile voice.

But, to the larger point, you're whistling past the graveyard if you don't recognize the racial component in the opposition to Obama. Come on. "Obama phones?" "The food stamp president?" The "Chicago gangster?"

I can't think of a modern precedent where a newly elected president has been so vociferous and obvious about obliterating the legacy of his predecessor. Can TNC be forgiven for thinking that, having otherered Obama ad nauseum, accepted the embrace of the racist right, and then squarely taken aim at the the signature accomplishments of his predecessor, Trump is floating on a tide of racialized backlash?

[thethe]

Obamas legacy is a disaster. Thankfully, we are doing everything we can to erase all the damage he did.

[Jaw]

I like Coates, he's intelligent and thoughtful and as I said, he makes me think and recognize a different perspective even when I disagree with him. The point behind my snark here was that he did a really poor job of picking examples to make his points. There was certainly some resentment of Obama due to his skin color. I just don't think that it had anything to do with a single one of Coates' example in this piece.

[cajunrevenge]

I do agree with him for the most part. There are many activists out there who seek to make it child abuse to not let your 6 Year Old be trans.

[57Brave]

A Mississippi school announced plans to change its name, which honors Confederate President Jefferson Davis, to something that better reflects its student body.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...ushpmg00000009

[thethe]

I suppose it's better to name a school after an abject failure of a president.

[Jaw]

[mqt]

A lack of representation in film or television isn't really an issue faced by white people.

[Jaw]

https://www.metro.news/nivea-accused...ng-ads/787235/

[Jaw]

A lack of representation in film or television isn't really an issue faced by white people.

How would you feel about Steve Nash celebrating a nearly all white NBA team with the same words?

[Julio3000]

I suppose it's better to name a school after an abject failure of a president.

My minimum requirement would be that it not be named for someone who took up arms against the US in a white supremacist insurrection. That's a pretty modest goal.

[mqt]

How would you feel about Steve Nash celebrating a nearly all white NBA team with the same words?

I will never understand the tendency to flip these things around as if white people are some persecuted group. Representation is vital in minority communities, because it helps young people feel like they have value and reinforces in society that non-white people are truly equal. Until our society gets to a point where the perception of successful people of color are not based around a few professions, films like The Black Panther will be a huge thing.

[mqt]

My minimum requirement would be that it not be named for someone who took up arms against the US in a white supremacist insurrection. That's a pretty modest goal.

Yeah, I'd be fine with schools being named Some Guy Named Steve Junior High so long as that guy named Steve wasn't a Confederate leader.

[jpx7]

https://www.metro.news/nivea-accused...ng-ads/787235/

They really should've turned it around and claimed that they were going for visibly more equitable, visibly most just skin when they used the word "fairer". Like, it was a really woke joke on white people.

[goldfly]

People that bitch about having to be politically correct should just say they wish they could still be openly racist

I would respect em a lot more for their honesty

[jpx7]

People that bitch about having to be politically correct should just say they wish they could still be openly racist

I would respect em a lot more for their honesty

Not to mention—and I'm getting tired of reiterating this—people still can be "politically incorrect", still can be openly racist; it's just that, now, the subjects of that discriminating discourse can actually talk back to them.

[Jaw]

I will never understand the tendency to flip these things around as if white people are some persecuted group. Representation is vital in minority communities, because it helps young people feel like they have value and reinforces in society that non-white people are truly equal. Until our society gets to a point where the perception of successful people of color are not based around a few professions, films like The Black Panther will be a huge thing.

I will never understand why people who claim to want everyone to be treated equally continually make an issue of race. Again, if you want racial discrimination to end, you need to quit discriminating on the basis of race.


Having said all that, I think Boyega's reply should have been something like "There weren't many whites in the Black Panthers organization. You dumb***."

[sturg33]

People that bitch about having to be politically correct should just say they wish they could still be openly racist

I would respect em a lot more for their honesty

You're so dumb

[Hawk]

Representation is vital in minority communities, because it helps young people feel like they have value and reinforces in society that non-white people are truly equal. Until our society gets to a point where the perception of successful people of color are not based around a few professions, films like The Black Panther will be a huge thing.

Did you rip this from a social studies textbook published in 1993?