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    #starbucksboycott

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    Has this country really gone this far off the deepend? Seriously? Is there no way back? do we have to blow it up and start again? I dont' get why for the life of me people would care that Starbucks vows to hire refugees.

    Dont' get me wrong, I've never given starbucks any money. Their coffee sucks, their baked goods suck, and I'm not much of a coffee person anyway. I'd much rather support a local business when it comes to any kind fo restaurant, drink establishment, etc.
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    Because people think it's more important to hire our neighbors and veterans

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krgrecw View Post
    Because people think it's more important to hire our neighbors and veterans
    How many "neighbors and veterans" would take a slightly above minimum wage service industry job? Cause there are plenty out there as it is. Seems like the local McDonalds, Walmart, CUmberland Farms, etc. are always looking for jobs. Didn't realize working at Starbucks was some kind of glamour position. Hey you get 9 bucks an hour plus split tips. WOOP WOOP. L'in the D
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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    How many "neighbors and veterans" would take a slightly above minimum wage service industry job? Cause there are plenty out there as it is. Seems like the local McDonalds, Walmart, CUmberland Farms, etc. are always looking for jobs. Didn't realize working at Starbucks was some kind of glamour position. Hey you get 9 bucks an hour plus split tips. WOOP WOOP. L'in the D
    A lot of ex military people work for pizza hut so yes, they will take ****ty jobs just above minimum wage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunrevenge View Post
    A lot of ex military people work for pizza hut so yes, they will take ****ty jobs just above minimum wage.


    Yep. I had a struggle getting a crappy job when I got out of the army. Got an okay one now, but your point is incredibly valid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krgrecw View Post
    Because people think it's more important to hire our neighbors and veterans
    Starbucks would be hiring your neighbors. It's not like they're going to smuggle in refugees. These would be refugees that had already resettled into your community.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krgrecw View Post
    Because people think it's more important to hire our neighbors and veterans

    First they have done that plenty as well

    And refugees are our neighbors too
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    All that has happened in the past 4 years and it's boycotting starbucks that has you wondering what has happened to this country?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gilesfan View Post
    All that has happened in the past 4 years and it's boycotting starbucks that has you wondering what has happened to this country?
    Not quite like this. This is people offering people in America jobs and people getting upset about it. Seriously. That's what this is. Find me something like this that's happened in the past 4 years. Usually boycotts such as the Chik-fil-a boycott involve some kind of social movement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    Not quite like this. This is people offering people in America jobs and people getting upset about it. Seriously. That's what this is. Find me something like this that's happened in the past 4 years. Usually boycotts such as the Chik-fil-a boycott involve some kind of social movement.
    People boycotting Uber because they serve their customers

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    People boycotting Uber because they serve their customers
    First Uber is a ****ty company that people shouldn't use. Second they weren't boycotting them because they were serving their customers, they were boycotting them because they deliberately cut their rates to undermine the taxi strike. This would be like Starbucks saying they were firing all their workforce and hiring only refugees.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    First Uber is a ****ty company that people shouldn't use. Second they weren't boycotting them because they were serving their customers, they were boycotting them because they deliberately cut their rates to undermine the taxi strike. This would be like Starbucks saying they were firing all their workforce and hiring only refugees.
    No... they cut their rates because the demand was so astronomical (bc of no cabs) that the surge was out of control. They did it as a service to their customers to allow them to get home.

    But... **** THEM

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    Starbucks can do what they want as far as I'm concerned, but is it not technically illegal what they said they want to do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gilesfan View Post
    All that has happened in the past 4 years and it's boycotting starbucks that has you wondering what has happened to this country?
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    Can't we all just get along? Trump voters can take Ubers to Dunkin Donuts while liberals can take cabs to Starbucks

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    This is the new thing now... any business that has an opinion requires a social media outrage and boycott

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    This is the new thing now... any business that has an opinion requires a social media outrage and boycott
    The market has an invisible hand, but a loud mouth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    This is the new thing now... any business that has an opinion requires a social media outrage and boycott
    Again, I'm confused, because I'd think you of all people should be happy to see this sort trend. Isn't this a model for how we could do without most or all governmental regulation, now that we've reached an age of informational hyper-access and social tele-connectedness? Isn't this just the free-market working how it's supposed to work?

    A company does something. Consumers don't like it. Consumers suspend economic activity with said company. If enough consumers follow suit, a critical mass is reached, and either the company adapts, or it dies. Isn't that pretty literally your whole thing?

    I have qualms about these sort of boycotts because I don't like seeing so much organizing energy dumped into either boosting or harming shareholder windfalls and corporate profits. I have concerns about perpetually framing and phrasing political action in terms of market activity. But shouldn't you love this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpx7 View Post
    Again, I'm confused, because I'd think you of all people should be happy to see this sort trend. Isn't this a model for how we could do without most or all governmental regulation, now that we've reached an age of informational hyper-access and social tele-connectedness? Isn't this just the free-market working how it's supposed to work?

    A company does something. Consumers don't like it. Consumers suspend economic activity with said company. If enough consumers follow suit, a critical mass is reached, and either the company adapts, or it dies. Isn't that pretty literally your whole thing?

    I have qualms about these sort of boycotts because I don't like seeing so much organizing energy dumped into either boosting or harming shareholder windfalls and corporate profits. I have concerns about perpetually framing and phrasing political action in terms of market activity. But shouldn't you love this?
    I've not once complained that these consumers have the ability or willingness to do it. I simply am amazed at the reasons they're doing it. It's completely baffling to me to form a movement to get rid of a service that most people really like because they simply performed their service.

    It amazes me that people will boycott Chick-fil-a bc their founder has an opinion.

    They have every right to do it. I'm just stunned they do.

    But the market is powerful. And that is why I think we don't need parts of the 1964 civil rights act... Imagine the outrage if a business put a sign on their door saying "no blacks allowed"... they'd be out of business in a week. And the government wouldn't have had to lift a finger

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krgrecw View Post
    Zitos white guilt is hitting him hard today.
    It's sad that white people can't be tolerant of all races, religions, genders, etc. without being labeled as having white guilt. But then again, I'm sure you're a MRA who thinks that men are discriminated against and black people have it easier in life than white people.
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