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    Albies has infinitely more promise offensively than Andrus. Way better prospect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by striker42 View Post
    I would put a Luis Castillo comp on Alvie's. Maybe a bit less speed and a bit more power.
    Also quite a bit more promising offensively than Castillo as well. To be a 2B with little power and to be nearly a top 10 prospect by everybody, you've got to be a phenomenal hitter and defender.

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    Did any of those guys have a 70 grade hit tool from BA like Albies does? Because 70 seems really good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smootness View Post
    Also quite a bit more promising offensively than Castillo as well. To be a 2B with little power and to be nearly a top 10 prospect by everybody, you've got to be a phenomenal hitter and defender.
    Castillo was a pretty good offensive player. It's easy to forget just how good he was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by striker42 View Post
    Castillo was a pretty good offensive player. It's easy to forget just how good he was.
    He was. And Albies has more natural offensive ability. Tells you what kind of potential Albies has.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ventura's Stolen Bases View Post
    Did any of those guys have a 70 grade hit tool from BA like Albies does? Because 70 seems really good.
    If you could have 70 on any one tool as a position player, that's the one you want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CJ9 View Post
    I read an interesting Albies comp from Eno Sarris at Fangraphs, who has liked Albies for a while. He said Elvis Andrus with a little more pop.

    Maybe my expectations are too high, but I feel like I'd be disappointed if Albies had the same offensive impact as andrus.
    I think of Jose Vidro as the best comp for Albies. Though he may not have quite the peak that Vidro did maxing out at 24 homers, I see him settling in around 10-15 homers with a BA near .300 annually, much like Vidro in his prime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp View Post
    I think of Jose Vidro as the best comp for Albies. Though he may not have quite the peak that Vidro did maxing out at 24 homers, I see him settling in around 10-15 homers with a BA near .300 annually, much like Vidro in his prime.
    Cool. Seems legit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp View Post
    I think of Jose Vidro as the best comp for Albies. Though he may not have quite the peak that Vidro did maxing out at 24 homers, I see him settling in around 10-15 homers with a BA near .300 annually, much like Vidro in his prime.
    Vidro level offense with supposedly plus defense at 2nd would be a superstar. I think that's his likely ceiling as a player. Good comp.

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    My favorite position prospect is Acuna, if his power develops, we could be looking at a guy with skills near that of Andruw. (tho probably not at quite that level)

    4-6 WAR player tho with his defense, bat and speed. that'll work!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bravos4evr View Post
    My favorite position prospect is Acuna, if his power develops, we could be looking at a guy with skills near that of Andruw. (tho probably not at quite that level)

    4-6 WAR player tho with his defense, bat and speed. that'll work!
    Agreed. I have too many favorites to name, but position-wise looking at him play, he was at least the most intriguing player on the field on most nights. (Didder doesn't get the pub, but he's quick twitch as well). He is exciting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by striker42 View Post
    Castillo was a pretty good offensive player. It's easy to forget just how good he was.
    Castillo fell off so fast. I remember the excitement up here in Minnesota when the Twins traded for him, but he wasn't the player he had been a few years earlier in Florida.

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    Braves litter the BA positional lists...

    SS - #1 Swanson, #9 Maitan
    2B - #2 Albies, #10 Demeritte
    3B - #8 Riley





    Braves' prospects who were also named on ballots for their Top 100 included...

    Fried, Gohara, Muller, Riley, Toussaint, Weigel, and Wentz.



    http://www.baseballamerica.com/minor...100-prospects/
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    RHPs - #14 Soroka, #21 Anderson, #37 Weigel, #44 Toussaint
    LHPs - #2 Allard, #6 Newcomb, #13 Gohara, #15 Fried, #19 Wentz
    Corner OF - #16 Peterson (ahead of Jesse Winker and Brandon Nimmo who seem to be plummeting of late)
    CF- #13 Acuna, #30 Pache
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    still surprised that Touki is that far back from Weigel and the group. I have him so much higher in my personal list. His stuff is the best on the staff IMO.. Big FB to go with the best curve.. sorry Fried..

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    still surprised that Touki is that far back from Weigel and the group. I have him so much higher in my personal list. His stuff is the best on the staff IMO.. Big FB to go with the best curve.. sorry Fried..
    It's especially strange since they ranked him the #90 overall prospect last year. Sure, he stayed at A again, but his results were much better, especially after that terrible start. I can understand dropping him a bit because he stayed at the same level and still had control issues, but it shouldn't be by much, and you can make an argument he improved his stock a little.

    I think one thing that can happen in the top systems with depth is that you continue to see a guy ranked in a certain place within a system and it starts to impact your thoughts on that player and where he sits in all of baseball. For example, if you consistently see a guy ranked #1 in a system, even if you know that system is really bad and the #1 ranking doesn't mean as much, it's hard to not at least grow a little fonder of that prospect over time because he's the top guy in a system. In the same way, if you continually see a guy ranked #12 or so in a system, even if you know that system is really deep, it's hard not to become a little jaded with the player and think of him as a guy who can't crack the top 10.

    I honestly believe that if a system was ever able to truly get 20+ of the top 100 prospects in baseball (would be extremely hard, and I definitely don't think that's where the Braves are, just an FYI), I still think you'd see them with no more than 13-14 or so of the top 100. It's just hard to convince yourself that a system can have that much talent in it.

    Touki's rank within our system has dropped out of necessity as we've added Anderson, Maitan, Gohara, Wentz, Fried tore it up, Acuna rose, etc. So it can subconsciously cause you to perceive that the player is slipping, even if he really isn't.
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    yeah, Touki is being punished a bit too hard for that terrible first 2 months as well as being apart of a great system.

    If you look at his June on stats

    3-3, 2.72 ERA, 17 games, 89.1 ip, 67 h, 27 earned runs, 9 homers, 43 bb, 104 k, 1.23 WHiP, 10.5 k/9, 4.3 bb/9

    He still needs to get the walks down, but those numbers should not be over looked. But like you said, I think they are because there are so many other Brave's numbers that have to be looked at.

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