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    Baseball America Top 100

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    Sean Newcomb 78
    Kevin Maitan 77
    Ronald Acuna 67
    Ian Anderson 66
    Mike Soroka 48
    Kolby Allard 37
    Ozzie Albies 11
    Dansby Swanson 3
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    Soroka with an aggressive ranking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    Soroka with an aggressive ranking.
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    Digging this 11 ranking for Albies. Will be top 10 by the end of Swanson's first game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mqt View Post
    Digging this 11 ranking for Albies. Will be top 10 by the end of Swanson's first game.
    i think they are underrating Albies

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    i think they are underrating Albies
    He's likely top 5 in their mid-season rankings assuming he's not called up by then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    i think they are underrating Albies
    Albies is very talented, but he's also very limited in potential due to having no power. And his fielding isn't plus though it could be.

    His speed and hit tool could be sick combo. But look at the best players in baseball, how many of them are in that mold? When you look at the top 20 players in fWAR the ones with an iso under .150 are Lindor, Eaton, and Pedroia. all of them are there because of plus plus defense. Speed not being too much of a factor in any of them.
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    Saw on Twitter that John Manuel mentioned Weigel, Fried, Gohara, Touki, Peterson, Riley, Wentz, and Pache as guys who received top 100 votes.

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    Keith Law will look wise for his Fried ranking in a few months.

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    Looks like they won't break the Royals record.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oklahomabrave View Post
    Keith Law will look wise for his Fried ranking in a few months.
    Longenhagen might even be more bullish than Law based on his chat comments.

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    over the year's I've found myself in greater agreement with the BA rankings than any other and this year is no exception...I'm glad to see them give Soroka the appreciation that you don't see elsewhere

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    Swanson comes in at 3.

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    So eight in the BA ranking. Longenhagen has already said we'll have nine of his top 100. I believe the Baseball Prospectus rankings come out on Monday, and we should have the MLB.com top 30 rankings for our system in the next couple weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CJ9 View Post
    So eight in the BA ranking. Longenhagen has already said we'll have nine of his top 100. I believe the Baseball Prospectus rankings come out on Monday, and we should have the MLB.com top 30 rankings for our system in the next couple weeks.
    For the record, here is BA's top 30 for Atlanta (it was made before the Gohara trade), with their value assigned in parentheses (some of them seem out of order, but that's due to a higher risk):

    1. Dansby Swanson (65)
    2. Ozzie Albies (65)
    3. Kolby Allard (60)
    4. Mike Soroka (60)
    5. Ian Anderson (65)
    6. Ronald Acuna (60)
    7. Kevin Maitan (65)
    8. Sean Newcomb (55)
    9. Patrick Weigel (60)
    10. Max Fried (55)
    11. Austin Riley (55)
    12. Touki Toussaint (60)
    13. Christian Pache (55)
    14. Lucas Sims (50)
    15. Joey Wentz (55)
    16. Dustin Peterson (50)
    17. Kyle Muller (55)
    18. AJ Minter (55)
    19. Travis Demeritte (50)
    20. Rio Ruiz (45)
    21. Braxton Davidson (50)
    22. Derian Cruz (55)
    23. Brett Cumberland (50)
    24. Drew Harrington (50)
    25. Bryce Wilson (55)
    26. Abrahan Gutierrez (50)
    27. Ray-Patrick Didder (45)
    28. Luke Jackson (45)
    29. Alex Jackson (50)
    30. Lucas Herbert (50)

    It looks like they probably have Gohara around 12 or so, so you can bump everyone else down accordingly.

    The fact that we have a guy with a 55 value at 25, and that 29 and 30 have a 50 value, is utterly absurd. The Diamondbacks, for example, have 12 guys in the system with a value of 50 or better, and just 2 with a value of 55; none higher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smootness View Post
    For the record, here is BA's top 30 for Atlanta (it was made before the Gohara trade), with their value assigned in parentheses (some of them seem out of order, but that's due to a higher risk):

    1. Dansby Swanson (65)
    2. Ozzie Albies (65)
    3. Kolby Allard (60)
    4. Mike Soroka (60)
    5. Ian Anderson (65)
    6. Ronald Acuna (60)
    7. Kevin Maitan (65)
    8. Sean Newcomb (55)
    9. Patrick Weigel (60)
    10. Max Fried (55)
    11. Austin Riley (55)
    12. Touki Toussaint (60)
    13. Christian Pache (55)
    14. Lucas Sims (50)
    15. Joey Wentz (55)
    16. Dustin Peterson (50)
    17. Kyle Muller (55)
    18. AJ Minter (55)
    19. Travis Demerit (50)
    20. Rio Ruiz (45)
    21. Braxton Davidson (50)
    22. Serian Cruz (55)
    23. Brett Cumberland (50)
    24. Drew Harrington (50)
    25. Bryce Wilson (55)
    26. Abrahan Gutierrez (50)
    27. Ray-Patrick Didder (45)
    28. Luke Jackson (45)
    29. Alex Jackson (50)
    30. Lucas Herbert (50)

    It looks like they probably have Gohara around 12 or so, so you can bump everyone else down accordingly.

    The fact that we have a guy with a 55 value at 25, and that 29 and 30 have a 50 value, is utterly absurd. The Diamondbacks, for example, have 12 guys in the system with a value of 50 or better, and just 2 with a value of 55; none higher.
    Yepez is the big omission from their top 30.

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    I read an interesting Albies comp from Eno Sarris at Fangraphs, who has liked Albies for a while. He said Elvis Andrus with a little more pop.

    Maybe my expectations are too high, but I feel like I'd be disappointed if Albies had the same offensive impact as andrus.

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    Elvis has been average to above average 6 of the 8 years he's been in the league. While that's not super exciting I'd certainly be ok with that. I do think Albies will hit for a higher average and post better than a .083 ISO though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CJ9 View Post
    I read an interesting Albies comp from Eno Sarris at Fangraphs, who has liked Albies for a while. He said Elvis Andrus with a little more pop.

    Maybe my expectations are too high, but I feel like I'd be disappointed if Albies had the same offensive impact as andrus.
    Can someone explain to me why seven years of an average wRC+ of 83 ('09-15), with negative runs above average all but one year until last year - -47 runs, to be exact - results in Andrus having a substantially positive oWAR (+18, in fact) during that time? Each year is positive, which makes no sense to me.

    I'm asking because I don't understand the WAR derivation, not to be berated or talked down to. Thanks.

    P.S. I hope Albies isn't Andrus with more pop. Maybe that's similar to the Freeman=Grace lazy comparison I remember from years back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GovClintonTyree View Post
    Can someone explain to me why seven years of an average wRC+ of 83 ('09-15), with negative runs above average all but one year until last year - -47 runs, to be exact - results in Andrus having a substantially positive oWAR (+18, in fact) during that time? Each year is positive, which makes no sense to me.

    I'm asking because I don't understand the WAR derivation, not to be berated or talked down to. Thanks.

    P.S. I hope Albies isn't Andrus with more pop. Maybe that's similar to the Freeman=Grace lazy comparison I remember from years back.
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