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    Quote Originally Posted by Metaphysicist View Post
    Goalposts haven't moved. Racism is systemic in the criminal justice system. Our system of policing, as it currently exists, is bad and harmful to society; this affects all races, but minorities feel it the most. These are basic realities that shouldn't be controversial. The fact that conservatives in this thread refuse to accept these simple facts shows exactly why people are protesting.
    Basic realities evidenced by what? Where is the obvious abnormalities in the data which prove this?

    If its as bad as you all say the answer to this question should be simple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    This ain't it, chief

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    This ain't it, chief
    Not sure what you're inplying but all I'm trying to say is that these factors detract from the story this was a clear example of systemic racism in policing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    I am curious what the thought process here is. Do they want no cops or maybe privatize them?
    Scale back budgets, reinvest in things that actually help the community, reorient how we think about justice. Not calling for literally anarchy.

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    Basic primer on racism in the criminal justice system for all the "hurr durr I'm a race realist data scientists" in this thread:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...res-the-proof/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metaphysicist View Post
    Basic primer on racism in the criminal justice system for all the "hurr durr I'm a race realist data scientists" in this thread:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...res-the-proof/
    Who are you referring to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metaphysicist View Post
    Basic primer on racism in the criminal justice system for all the "hurr durr I'm a race realist data scientists" in this thread:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...res-the-proof/
    Criminal justice is different than policing.

    And correlation is not causation.

    Its an economic issue first and foremost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Yeah.

    Not to mention the.multiple black deaths from the riots.

    And the impending thousands of black deaths from scary virus spread.

    Seems counter intuitive but who knows...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Who are you referring to?
    If you think I'm talking about you, then I probably am.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metaphysicist View Post
    If you think I'm talking about you, then I probably am.
    Hm.

    Pretty sure I flat out said that our criminal justice system is systemically racist.

    It's in this thread.

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    In their book “Suspect Citizens,” Frank R. Baumgartner, Derek A. Epp and Kelsey Shoub reviewed 20 million traffic stops. In an interview with The Post, they shared what they found: “Blacks are almost twice as likely to be pulled over as whites — even though whites drive more on average,” “blacks are more likely to be searched following a stop,” and “just by getting in a car, a black driver has about twice the odds of being pulled over, and about four times the odds of being searched.” They found that blacks were more likely to be searched despite the fact they’re less likely to be found with contraband as a result of those searches.
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    A study of stop and frisk incidents in Boston between 2007 and 2010 that did not result in a citation or arrest found that 63 percent of such stops were of black people. Blacks made up 24 percent of the city’s population. Incredibly, 97.5 percent of these encounters resulted in no arrest or seizure of contraband.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    In their book “Suspect Citizens,” Frank R. Baumgartner, Derek A. Epp and Kelsey Shoub reviewed 20 million traffic stops. In an interview with The Post, they shared what they found: “Blacks are almost twice as likely to be pulled over as whites — even though whites drive more on average,” “blacks are more likely to be searched following a stop,” and “just by getting in a car, a black driver has about twice the odds of being pulled over, and about four times the odds of being searched.” They found that blacks were more likely to be searched despite the fact they’re less likely to be found with contraband as a result of those searches.
    How in the world do you review 20 million of anything?

    ETA... if you reviewed 1 per minute non-stop, it would take 38 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    How in the world do you review 20 million of anything?

    They have cops check off boxes after each encounter then feed that data into a program to sort it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    A study of stop and frisk incidents in Boston between 2007 and 2010 that did not result in a citation or arrest found that 63 percent of such stops were of black people. Blacks made up 24 percent of the city’s population. Incredibly, 97.5 percent of these encounters resulted in no arrest or seizure of contraband.
    Quoting the black population is irrelevant. Man, people suck at analyzing data and creating homogenous populations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunrevenge View Post
    They have cops check off boxes after each encounter then feed that data into a program to sort it.
    Yeah, you're right. I guess I'm messing it up in my head by thinking a review is more than just letting a computer sort it out

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    How in the world do you review 20 million of anything?

    ETA... if you reviewed 1 per minute non-stop, it would take 38 years.
    Technology. You know all the buzz words. AI. Big Data. Machine Learning. Voice recognition. Try to keep up.

    Every time I fart my cell phone records it and sells that information to someone. I just wish I was getting a cut of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    A study of stop and frisk incidents in Boston between 2007 and 2010 that did not result in a citation or arrest found that 63 percent of such stops were of black people. Blacks made up 24 percent of the city’s population. Incredibly, 97.5 percent of these encounters resulted in no arrest or seizure of contraband.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Hm.

    Pretty sure I flat out said that our criminal justice system is systemically racist.

    It's in this thread.
    Then why would you think I am talking about you?

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