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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    I put up a link to various studies a while back. Feel free to peruse.

    My favorite one is about how cops speak less respectfully to blacks than to whites. Published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, June 2017.

    Here is a link describing how the study was done.

    https://phys.org/news/2017-06-police...residents.html
    I will read the study but the time period where the data was analyzed is off the bat interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Hahahahaha...is that what some overpaid PR firm came up with to make Kap look better so he could earn more money?
    Or you konw what was said, for example do you know why Kaepernick knelt instead of sat like he first did?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    Or you konw what was said, for example do you know why Kaepernick knelt instead of sat like he first did?
    As you may have forgotten I used to have quite the affinity for Kap.

    What do you think the answer to that question is?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    As you may have forgotten I used to have quite the affinity for Kap.

    What do you think the answer to that question is?
    If you knew the answer you would know what it isn't disrespectful to the flag or military. So I assume you don't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Shame the data doesn't suppprt the idea blacks are being murdered in waves by cops.

    Its not surprisjng that people refuse to analyze the data.
    A shame, huh? Well. There you go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    If you knew the answer you would know what it isn't disrespectful to the flag or military. So I assume you don't.
    I know the reason uou belirvr because of your insane activism. Kaos actions before and after completely contradict that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalyn View Post
    A shame, huh? Well. There you go.
    Yeah...its a shame people use lies to spread panic and fear which result in instability.

    Not the first time this year
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Yeah...its a shame people use lies to spread panic and fear which result in instability.

    Not the first time this year
    Mmmmm Okay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalyn View Post
    Mmmmm Okay.
    Either know the actual results or stop pretending you know the truth.
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    Why is the left so against data and facts?

    It's weird for the party of science

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    I put up a link to various studies a while back. Feel free to peruse.

    My favorite one is about how cops speak less respectfully to blacks than to whites. Published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, June 2017.

    Here is a link describing how the study was done.

    https://phys.org/news/2017-06-police...residents.html
    Oh my God. The officers called black peolle bro or dude?

    Thats an example of the more disrespecrful language? So basically the greetings I use with my closest friends.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Either know the actual results or stop pretending you know the truth.
    That's a good one. You are something else.

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    "To be clear: There was no swearing," said Dan Jurafsky, a study co-author and Stanford professor of linguistics and of computer science. "These were well-behaved officers. But the many small differences in how they spoke with community members added up to pervasive racial disparities."



    This isnan actual quote from the study. You take this seriously?

    Did you actually read this thing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalyn View Post
    That's a good one. You are something else.
    listen Dalyn I've always respected you in the past and our interactions have been pleasant. If you don't want to discuss the actual results of what's happening in the field then why even speak to me?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    "To be clear: There was no swearing," said Dan Jurafsky, a study co-author and Stanford professor of linguistics and of computer science. "These were well-behaved officers. But the many small differences in how they spoke with community members added up to pervasive racial disparities."



    This isnan actual quote from the study. You take this seriously?

    Did you actually read this thing?
    I sure did.
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    Yet "researchers can't just sit and watch every single stop," Eberhardt explained. "It would take too long. Besides, their own biases could affect their judgments of the interactions."

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    So they are basically eliminating all contsxt because the cant watch a substantial portion of the footage.

    Nsacpi, this is beneath you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    I sure did.
    "Our findings are not proof of bias or wrongdoing on the part of individual officers," Eberhardt cautioned. "Many factors could drive racial disparities in respectful speech."

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    I'm beginning to doubt that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Yet "researchers can't just sit and watch every single stop," Eberhardt explained. "It would take too long. Besides, their own biases could affect their judgments of the interactions."

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    So they are basically eliminating all contsxt because the cant watch a substantial portion of the footage.

    Nsacpi, this is beneath you.
    Actually I do this kind of work...but not for police.

    It involves coding what is being said into data.

    You can then analyze how often words like Ma'am and Sir are used. How often a how are you doing is said. Or a good morning.

    And since the process can be done from a transcript and no one knows the races of the parties involved, there is no bias on the part of the observer.

    It is actually how good research is done.

    The part about bro is silly and can be made fun of.

    But really does anyone doubt the basic conclusion. And these cops are cops who are being recorded from their own recording devices. So they are on their best behavior.

    It leaves out certain things that are inherently more difficult to code. Like body language and tone. But words alone show a difference.
    Last edited by nsacpi; 06-03-2020 at 10:02 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Why is the left so against data and facts?

    It's weird for the party of science
    And something like that was proof of significant racial disparities. Because you never want to be called a dude or bro.

    Comical.

    Why dont we get to real facts like deaths or physical excessive force. Lets normalize that per interactions with officers and grade those interactions by level of danger/risk.

    What are the trendlines since the Saint Obama left office?

    Nobody wants to look at those numbers because it tells a much different story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Actually I do this kind of work...but not for police.

    It involves coding what is being said into data.

    You can then analyze how often words like Ma'am and Sir are used. How often a how are you doing is said.

    And since the process can be done in a way where no one can tell the races of the parties involved, there is no bias on the part of the observer.

    It is actually how good research is done.
    They did know the races in the stidy but I dont belive that was relevant to their rock solid methodology of aggressive language like 'dude'.

    Im sure at some point an officer referred to one black assailant as "Bro Montana".

    True story.
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