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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    But really does anyone doubt the basic conclusion. And these cops are cops who are being recorded from their own recording devices. So they are on their best behavior.

    It leaves out certain things that are inherently more difficult to code. Like body language and tone. But words alone show a difference.
    So this is the point where you exit from this amazing study and say we just 'know?

    How can anything be solved this way. Are you not in favor of the scientific method?

    You've claimed a hypothesis. You brought a study to the table. And now you are already making excuses for how the study couldn't capture the absolute truth?

    You dont see anything wrong with this?

    If this is in fact happening and its happening at a rate greater for blacks as we are all scolded into believing....wouldn't it show up SOMEWHERE in the data?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    So this is the point where you exit from this amazing study and say we just 'know?

    How can anything be solved this way. Are you not in favor of the scientific method?

    You've claimed a hypothesis. You brought a study to the table. And now you are already making excuses for how the study couldn't capture the absolute truth?

    You dont see anything wrong with this?

    If this is in fact happening and its happening at a rate greater for blacks as we are all scolded into believing....wouldn't it show up SOMEWHERE in the data?
    That's how you do a scientific study.

    You have a null hypothesis: police speak the same way to blacks and whites.

    You collect data in a way that the observer's bias cannot affect the data.

    And test your hypothesis.

    How else do you do research?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    listen Dalyn I've always respected you in the past and our interactions have been pleasant. If you don't want to discuss the actual results of what's happening in the field then why even speak to me?
    Fair enough. None of this feels like a discussion, really, at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalyn View Post
    Fair enough. None of this feels like a discussion, really, at this point.
    I agree.

    I really do hope all is well and apologize if my emotion and insanity has irked you in any or probabaly in many ways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    That's how you do a scientific study.

    You have a null hypothesis: police speak the same way to blacks and whites.

    You collect data in a way that the observer's bias cannot affect the data.

    And test your hypothesis.

    How else do you do research?
    Oh...i think they performed the study correctly. But the conclusion made was drastically exaggerated based on how they defined disrespectful. I mean ..it is stanford so not the most 'manly' society.

    I'm more talking about you and how you abandoned the research quickly almost immediately upon me asking questions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    I agree.

    I really do hope all is well and apologize if my emotion and insanity has irked you in any or probabaly in many ways.
    Seeing the word shame in that context definitely rubbed me the wrong way.

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    We are doing a very anti-data movement to make substantial change in society

    We just did this with covid

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalyn View Post
    Seeing the word shame in that context definitely rubbed me the wrong way.
    I'm sorry but you misinterpreted the context in which the word was used.
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    That's what words can do, by the way. They are powerful things. Like getting pulled over by police and being the one called dude while everyone else is called sir and/or ma'am. Or using a phrase that was used in an incredibly racist context years ago. That sort of thing. It adds up, and it boils over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    We are doing a very anti-data movement to make substantial change in society

    We just did this with covid

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    That study i would expect from someone like 57.

    Is this the best research to show 'systemitc racism' within the police function? Enough to start using slogans such as 'defund the police?

    What we are seeing lacks any rationality. I feel like I'm in an episode of the twilight zone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalyn View Post
    That's what words can do, by the way. They are powerful things. Like getting pulled over by police and being the one called dude while everyone else is called sir and/or ma'am. Or using a phrase that was used in an incredibly racist context years ago. That sort of thing. It adds up, and it boils over.
    If something like bro or dude bubbles over into what we are seeing then people have the grow the **** up. This is not evidence of systemic racism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    If something like bro or dude bubbles over into what we are seeing then people have the grow the **** up. This is not evidence of systemic racism.
    It's just part of it. A piece of a much larger ****ty puzzle. People don't want to be treated differently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    If something like bro or dude bubbles over into what we are seeing then people have the grow the **** up. This is not evidence of systemic racism.
    There is other research on being cuffed, being tased, having a gun drawn at you etc etc.

    Everyone can draw their own conclusions.

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    It's easy to mock microagressions and all that but the way you shake someone's hand or acknowledge them makes a big difference. And the racial inequities go well beyond cops. Cops are more or less reflections of society.

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    I know the reason uou belirvr because of your insane activism. Kaos actions before and after completely contradict that.
    What does this sentence even mean? Again,do you know why he knelt instead of sitting down?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    It's easy to mock microagressions and all that but the way you shake someone's hand or acknowledge them makes a big difference. And the racial inequities go well beyond cops. Cops are more or less reflections of society.
    Or maybe its colloquial. Or maybe its because on average white people are more stuck up and won't respond as well to endearing terms. Id rather be referred to as bro than sir in every situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    There is other research on being cuffed, being tased, having a gun drawn at you etc etc.

    Everyone can draw their own conclusions.
    Please share it. Hope its better than the rock solid theory of micro aggressions.

    Feminist culture seeping its way into race studies, specifically with a race that has lost the least amount of their natural masculinity. What could go wrong?
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