Has there EVER been a statement and question a certain someone should absolutely never have made and asked publicly more than...
Kinda pathetic to see yourself as a message board knight in shining armor. How impotent does someone have to be in real life to resort to playing hero on a message board?
More about pointing out that the "big-ticket FA signing" could likely be budgeted for without taking on the risk involved with a 10 or 12 year deal.
The Marlins are already substantially behind on the Stanton deal, and there's very little chance he can possibly produce enough during what's left of his prime to make up for it - even if he somehow stays healthy (which he never has).
Freeman's contract was great, but you're going to have to take those decline years in any Machado deal. Everyone understands the risks (I'm sure), and I'd love to get Manny as much as everyone else would, but all it would take is one or two injured prime years to turn a Machado contract into a bust. That becomes a death knoll for mid-market clubs like us and Miami. At the $140-ish million range being kicked around, we've probably got enough talent in the system to pay a couple of present market-value (< $25 million) salaries for OUR stars like Freeman, but once you start climbing into superstar-level deals, things get AWFULLY tight.
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Has there EVER been a statement and question a certain someone should absolutely never have made and asked publicly more than...
Kinda pathetic to see yourself as a message board knight in shining armor. How impotent does someone have to be in real life to resort to playing hero on a message board?
Saw this today and wanted to share in this thread.
http://teamstre.am/2kQl1Av
That is quite possibly the most randomly assigned point system I have ever seen. All Top 100 prospects valued the same? A single season of 2 win production makes a player 2.5x more valuaable than a top prospect? A guy who has posted a 5 WAR season is only 2x as valuable as a guy that posted a 2 WAR season?
Odd.
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What a great thread this has turned into.
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Managuarantano's Volunteers (02-27-2017)
I think the point is that why it may be possible (anything is in baseball due to tons of factors) it's not at all probable. Therefore the Braves shouldn't try and do anything that hasn't been done before. The only way the Braves should entertain the idea of signing Machado or anything else for 30 million for any significant amount of time is if the payroll jumps to around 130 million.
I believe the payroll will be in the 140-150 million range relatively soon (within about 2 years). That may be unrealistic, but I think we'll see that. I still don't love the idea of paying one player that much with a payroll in that range, and I don't think we'd be the highest bidder, so I seriously doubt Machado is a real possibility for us. But as a fan, I can't say I wouldn't love it.
And that could be the payroll. Or they could defer a bunch of money.
The braves should be very cheap at a lot of positions.
If this team can pay kemp plus markakis 30 plus million why can't they pay a stud 30 million and put Peterson in rf?
Who knows if they'd win. But the money makes sense
If that is the payroll or higher then great. But I will believe that when I see it. The payroll has been stagnant for almost 2 decades now.
The point is about the Braves paying someone that much on the current payroll level and being good. The Braves are currently paying Kemp and Markakis 30 million plus and are not very good.
My original premise was always that payroll would go up over the next few years into the ~$150M range, which would not make the Braves the top payroll in baseball by any means but in the neighborhood of top 10.
Right now, they are bottom half of the league.
If the Braves move into a new stadium AND get an improved TV deal (still not great) and the payroll doesn't move into the top half of baseball, then their should be an investigation.
Obviously, if the payroll is $100M or less you can't afford a guy like Machado at any time.