Trumps first address

[The Chosen One]

One day sturg I'm going to buy you a beer and a good medium-rare steak

[Hawk]

I mean we know DT does not like taking responsibility and deflects. This wasn't his first time throwing shade at someone else to make himself look better.

"They lost Ryan". They is they. He isn't saying we or I. It's a clear indicator that when he answered the question he did not want to be grouped in with them.

https://twitter.com/foxandfriends/st...rc=twsrc%5Etfw

Watch the full video.

[Hawk]

I'm particularly referring to your case because while you were somewhat supportive of Trump in the primaries and general, since he took office I could have confused you for being once of his surrogates or spokespersons.

Call it spitballing.

[The Chosen One]

https://twitter.com/foxandfriends/st...rc=twsrc%5Etfw

Watch the full video.

Watched and doesn't change my stance. And once again you're smarter than this. As long as you've been involved in politics how can you not see him dancing around the answer like that? He gave a Trump answer with a touch of politician.

I mean I could break down that whole minute and give you the Trump translation.

[Hawk]

Watched and doesn't change my stance. And once again you're smarter than this. As long as you've been involved in politics how can you not see him dancing around the answer like that? He gave a Trump answer with a touch of politician.

I mean I could break down that whole minute and give you the Trump translation.

He's defending the mission. He says that it was something the generals had been preparing for well in advance, but, all things considered, they still lost Ryan.

Your read here is extremely narrow and seems unduly influenced.

Even if we're going to spend an inordinate amount of time rationalizing why he went with 'they' instead of 'we' ... he takes some degree of culpability one breath later ('I can understand ... I can understand why they'd feel that way...')

It's Trumpish, sure, but I think we've heard enough of him to know when he's dancing and when he's attempting sincerity.

[sturg33]

One day sturg I'm going to buy you a beer and a good medium-rare steak

I'll be in Atlanta for opening day weekend and would be thrilled to grab a beer

[57Brave]

I have better things to do with my time than to parse a speech and quibble over the use of the term 'chaos' to describe the border (and treating the usage of that adjective as a lie) or to get confused at the difference between "spent" and "will spend" (although, technically, the demand for funds has already been expended).

You have fun with all of that false outrage though.

#theresistance and all that.

So what you are saying is , great speech and you don't care if 80% was fiction, but great speech.

Style over substance

[Hawk]

So what you are saying is , great speech and you don't care if 80% was fiction, but great speech.

Style over substance

I'm saying great speech ... still waiting on you to provide proof (beyond dubious crowd-sourced fact checking) that refutes any of it as 'fiction' ...

[57Brave]

and whatever anyone says contrary to what you think you will shout fake news or some such other gibberish.
I am more than willing to come down from 51 false hoods granting there might be a few that were dubious
So what number would you ascribe, 35-40 ?

Like I said, even Bush43 "Yellowcake Speech"
had 4 or 5 max

Perhaps this might be a good time for you to reexamine the political whats and wherefores you hold so dearly
Heard Chris Christie and Rudy have been sitting outside the Oval Office door since the doors opened this morning. Sessions and all

Quit tryin' so hard

[Hawk]

and whatever anyone says contrary to what you think you will shout fake news or some such other gibberish.
I am more than willing to come down from 51 false hoods granting there might be a few that were dubious
So what number would you ascribe, 35-40 ?

Seems like you can't even name one, brother.

Quick ... to Daily Kos!

[57Brave]

Hawk just dog whistled Daily Kos

and all the boys did their best Bevis and Butthead chuckles

[Hawk]

Hawk just dog whistled Daily Kos

and all the boys did their best Bevis and Butthead chuckles

Sigh. That's what I thought I'd get out of you.

All bark, no bite.

Come to think of it, kind of like your ideology.

[57Brave]

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/20...ange-our-minds

[Hawk]

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/20...ange-our-minds

I know you didn't read the whole article -- but you realize that it supports my perspective, right?

If you are searching for a case study in confirmation bias, look no further than the 'let's see what sticks' approach taken by those opposed to the Trump administration.

[goldfly]

hehe

[goldfly]

“This was a mission that was started before I got here,” Trump said. “This was something that was, you know, just — they wanted to do. They came to see me and they explained what they wanted to do, the generals, who are very respected. My generals are the most respected that we've had in many decades, I would — I believe. And they lost Ryan.”

This is the literal quote.

If you get 'blaming the Generals' out of that, then it's on you.

how do you read that and not agree that the buck stops everywhere except him for something he signed off on?

[goldfly]

Not even sure how you can compare the two to be honest.

it's sturg posting to me

it's like 8 years of republicans to obama

it doesn't matter what the topic is

i mean ****, he still keeps saying i'm a hypocrite. lol

[sturg33]

it's sturg posting to me

it's like 8 years of republicans to obama

it doesn't matter what the topic is

i mean ****, he still keeps saying i'm a hypocrite. lol

I love that you complain about Republicans not willing to work with Obama was a sin.

But you refuse to do anything but criticize Trump.

But... you know, hypocrite

[goldfly]

yes

those 1st 2 lines are equal


but if trump would like for me to stop criticizing him, maybe stop doing dumb ideas or being a POS.

Bernie has come out and said he would work with him if he wanted to do infrastructure ideas etc. i agree with that, i agree with his idea of giving everyone insurance for ANYTHING they want etc

the guy is a ****ing liar though and that is proven over and over again. he is a demagogue who isn't grounded in reality for most of the **** he spews.


but yeah, hypocrite. lol lol lol

[Hawk]

how do you read that and not agree that the buck stops everywhere except him for something he signed off on?

Because I watched the video (which I linked later) and gathered context.