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    Gant and Povse

    Both have had outstanding springs so far. I was sorry to see them go. The return seemed a bit light in both trades. But hey we had a log-jam in the upper minors and now we've created a spot for Danks in the AAA rotation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Both have had outstanding springs so far. I was sorry to see them go. The return seemed a bit light in both trades. But hey we had a log-jam in the upper minors and now we've created a spot for Danks in the AAA rotation.

    I hated the Povse trade and still do. Gant, I was fine with. glad they are doing well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Both have had outstanding springs so far. I was sorry to see them go. The return seemed a bit light in both trades. But hey we had a log-jam in the upper minors and now we've created a spot for Danks in the AAA rotation.
    I read that Gant's velocity is up and adding a more consistent third pitch is coming along too. I hated that trade for just one year of oft-injured Garcia (I like Garcia well enough when healthy, but that's another story) and I didn't like trading off Povse either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Braves1976 View Post
    I read that Gant's velocity is up and adding a more consistent third pitch is coming along too. I hated that trade for just one year of oft-injured Garcia (I like Garcia well enough when healthy, but that's another story) and I didn't like trading off Povse either.
    Hated the Garcia trade. For that much money we should have gotten him almost free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by striker42 View Post
    Hated the Garcia trade. For that much money we should have gotten him almost free.
    Yeah, the argument was that it was three prospects without much upside for one year of Garcia. I just never understood why a team that won't make the playoffs is giving up prospects of any level for one year of a guy like Garcia anyway. It makes no sense.

    I always liked Gant as a solid reliever with that changeup anyway. I think it was Keith Law who said he could be Tyler Clippard out of the pen, and I always liked that comparison. If the velo really has ticked up, this is going to be a really bad trade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CJ9 View Post
    Yeah, the argument was that it was three prospects without much upside for one year of Garcia. I just never understood why a team that won't make the playoffs is giving up prospects of any level for one year of a guy like Garcia anyway. It makes no sense.

    I always liked Gant as a solid reliever with that changeup anyway. I think it was Keith Law who said he could be Tyler Clippard out of the pen, and I always liked that comparison. If the velo really has ticked up, this is going to be a really bad trade.
    If Garcia has a good year I bet we give him a QO. So we could get a pick out of that deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    If Garcia has a good year I bet we give him a QO. So we could get a pick out of that deal.
    I guess. I'd rather just deal him before the deadline if he's having a good year. I don't have much faith in his ability to stay healthy for long enough to be worth the QO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CJ9 View Post
    I guess. I'd rather just deal him before the deadline if he's having a good year. I don't have much faith in his ability to stay healthy for long enough to be worth the QO.
    There are a few ways to handle it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CJ9 View Post
    I guess. I'd rather just deal him before the deadline if he's having a good year. I don't have much faith in his ability to stay healthy for long enough to be worth the QO.
    That's right. We should burning brain cells now over such minor details...two weeks before the season even starts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knucksie View Post
    That's right. We should burning brain cells now over such minor details...two weeks before the season even starts.
    Can you please provide a list of items we are permitted to talk about? Thanks in advance.

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    While it's certainly debatable that the Braves are in any kind of position to be giving up young assets for 1 year rentals (Coppy is a genius though, so it will be OK), I think it's important to realize the propsects given up were essentially fungible assets. A good showing over a handful of ST innings doesn't change that fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    While it's certainly debatable that the Braves are in any kind of position to be giving up young assets for 1 year rentals (Coppy is a genius though, so it will be OK), I think it's important to realize the propsects given up were essentially fungible assets. A good showing over a handful of ST innings doesn't change that fact.
    there is fungible and there is fungible....i didn't mind seeing Jenkins and Ellis traded...i think Povse and Gant are in a different category with more upside

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    It's the spring

    I liked both deals. If Garcia is good he's a qo or a trade to a real contender

    We didn't have 40 man room for all of the 5 th starters we've collected

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    The only pitcher I hated to see go was Povse. That was surprising.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBravos View Post
    The only pitcher I hated to see go was Povse. That was surprising.
    I can't believe I agree with Enscheff even a little but he is correct. While I was partial to Povse(I Gave a report on him when he came through Rome), it was a deal that I probably do. Garcia may or may not be decent but I don't feel complaining about pieces that we weren't going to keep as productive. Gant and Povse may prove serviceable, but that's what we should get with Garcia right now.

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    I like Gant, but it's whatever. If he does well, then great! But, it's spring and stats are relatively meaningless -- though the velocity factoid is great to see!

    Povse is another story. Seeing him go really sucked.

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    Povse is the new Heyward.
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    povse trade was 50 times worse than the olivera trade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chipchildress View Post
    povse trade was 50 times worse than the olivera trade.
    now I've heard it all

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    Quote Originally Posted by chipchildress View Post
    povse trade was 50 times worse than the olivera trade.
    lulz

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