Page 3 of 3 FirstFirst 123
Results 41 to 55 of 55

Thread: Article about where each prospect is starting?

  1. #41
    Danville Rookie
    Join Date
    Jul 2016
    Posts
    332
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    2
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    71
    Thanked in
    55 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Oklahomabrave View Post
    Maybe that has to do with the rationale. I'm more inclined to believe that it has to do with the increasing evidence that peaks happen much earlier than traditionally believed and trying to get as many peak years as possible.

    It could be that peaks happen much sooner, but that doesn't then explain the Fried, Wiegel, Newcomb (last year), etc.

    I think it has more to do with the confidence that the FO has with the pitchability / approach to pitching they get from the coaches in Mississippi. By all accounts, all the pitchers that were at Mississippi last year progressed pretty significantly from the beginning to the end of the season.

  2. #42
    Approaching Buddy Hernandez Territory
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Posts
    1,058
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    121
    Thanked in
    93 Posts
    Problem with aggressively promoting pitchers is they get to the majors where the season is longer and they haven't built up that endurance and see a huge jump in workload.

    Also, pitchers are unlikely to be at their best at 20 or 21, so why use their service time during their non peak years?

  3. #43
    Gwinnett Bound
    Join Date
    Apr 2016
    Posts
    614
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    3
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    195
    Thanked in
    118 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by atl717 View Post
    Problem with aggressively promoting pitchers is they get to the majors where the season is longer and they haven't built up that endurance and see a huge jump in workload.

    Also, pitchers are unlikely to be at their best at 20 or 21, so why use their service time during their non peak years?
    I agree that a 20 or 21 year old will lack endurance but I think over the next few years you will see a shift from the traditional road to the majors to more of a fast track because of select travel baseball. I know guys that are 30 that were drafted as pitchers ten years ago that cant believe how advanced 12 year olds are now.

  4. #44
    Mashin' to Mississippi
    Join Date
    Jul 2015
    Posts
    514
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    212
    Thanked in
    128 Posts
    Wentz just tweeted he's officially headed to Rome

  5. #45
    It's OVER 5,000! msstate7's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2015
    Posts
    37,738
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    405
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    5,330
    Thanked in
    3,704 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by IslandBrave View Post
    Wentz just tweeted he's officially headed to Rome
    I was hoping for A+ to see another melt here

  6. The Following User Says Thank You to msstate7 For This Useful Post:

    zbhargrove (04-01-2017)

  7. #46
    Boras' Client
    Join Date
    Jul 2016
    Posts
    4,121
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    2
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    528
    Thanked in
    406 Posts
    It's probably more of the front office listening to the coaches. No real reason to rush the young guys unless they have been told they are ready.

  8. #47
    Danville Rookie
    Join Date
    Jul 2016
    Posts
    332
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    2
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    71
    Thanked in
    55 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by TheBravos View Post
    It's probably more of the front office listening to the coaches. No real reason to rush the young guys unless they have been told they are ready.
    There is a history of 20 year old pitchers breaking in the MLB. Julio Teheran is an example of that.

    If Soroka or Allard is that advanced at 19, the in 2 years they could break in. AA in 2017, AAA in 2018, MLB in 2020.

    Time will tell.

  9. #48
    Director of Minor League Reports rico43's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    6,368
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    887
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    5,806
    Thanked in
    2,448 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Seems our FO thinks very highly of our AA pitching coach
    It's Derrick Lewis, who was at Carolina last year. His resume tells you the Braves trust him in a big way:

    2004-2007 Pitching coach GCL Braves
    2008-2010 Pitching coach Danville Braves
    2011-2013 Pitching coach Rome Braves
    2014 Pitching coach Lynchburg Hillcats
    2015-2016 Pitching coach Carolina Mudcats

  10. #49
    Steve Harvey'd
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Posts
    19,102
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    1,859
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    5,350
    Thanked in
    3,370 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by bravesguy View Post
    There is a history of 20 year old pitchers breaking in the MLB. Julio Teheran is an example of that.

    If Soroka or Allard is that advanced at 19, the in 2 years they could break in. AA in 2017, AAA in 2018, MLB in 2020.

    Time will tell.
    Did we go on strike in 2019.

  11. #50
    It's OVER 5,000! Hudson2's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    8,699
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    957
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    1,455
    Thanked in
    1,123 Posts
    If we have some arms that don't progress as well as we hoped does that change the FO way of thinking going into the draft? Maybe go after a college arm?

  12. #51
    It's OVER 5,000! msstate7's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2015
    Posts
    37,738
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    405
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    5,330
    Thanked in
    3,704 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    Did we go on strike in 2019.
    After back-to-back WS titles in '17 and '18, the braves will hold out in '19 in hopes the competition can catch up and challenge us in '20

  13. #52
    10 yr, $185 million Extension
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    4,586
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    261
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    2,547
    Thanked in
    1,493 Posts
    Baseball America article with a Coppy quote on Allard/Soroka moves plus our rotations at each level: http://po.st/H5rybt.

    Big surprise is Muller being held back in extended and Luke Jackson going back to starting.

  14. #53
    10 yr, $185 million Extension
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    4,586
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    261
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    2,547
    Thanked in
    1,493 Posts
    From the article--

    Triple-A: Sean Newcomb (Braves No. 8 prospect), Lucas Sims (No. 14), 24-year-old Matt Wisler (not rookie eligible), 24-year-old Aaron Blair (not rookie eligible), Luke Jackson (No. 28).

    Double-A: Kolby Allard (No. 3), Mike Soroka (No. 4), Patrick Weigel (No. 9), Max Fried (No. 10), Matt Withrow.

    High Class A: Luiz Gohara (Mariners No. 3 pre-trade), Touki Toussaint (No. 12), Ricardo Sanchez (depth chart), Drew Harrington (2016 third-round pick), Tyler Pike (depth chart).

    Low Class A: Ian Anderson (No. 5), Joey Wentz (No. 15), Bryce Wilson (No. 25), Jeremy Walker (2016 5th round pick), Ryan Lawlor.

    The one missing pitcher from this list is lefthander Kyle Muller, last year’s second-round pick and the team’s No. 17 prospect. Muller is being held back in extended spring to get stretched out after a late start, but is expected to join the Rome rotation in the not-too-distant future.

  15. #54
    "What is a clvclv"
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Location
    Nebo, NC
    Posts
    9,634
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    5,354
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    2,340
    Thanked in
    1,628 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by CJ9 View Post
    Baseball America article with a Coppy quote on Allard/Soroka moves plus our rotations at each level: http://po.st/H5rybt.

    Big surprise is Muller being held back in extended and Luke Jackson going back to starting.

    Get the feeling that using Jackson as a starter is more of an effort to help harness his control (like Sims at this point). If the two of them and Mauricio could become just a little more reliable, you'd be looking at an absolute "lockdown" pen when you add them and Minter to the mix - seriously high-octane.
    Has there EVER been a statement and question a certain someone should absolutely never have made and asked publicly more than...

    Kinda pathetic to see yourself as a message board knight in shining armor. How impotent does someone have to be in real life to resort to playing hero on a message board?

  16. #55
    It's OVER 5,000! Braves1976's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    15,027
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    7,679
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    2,207
    Thanked in
    1,642 Posts
    Where is Michael Mader? He wasn't bad starting in AA for Mississippi last year after the trade. I saw him listed on Mississippi's roster but didn't know if he was maybe injured or being dropped from the rotation to the bullpen or what?

Similar Threads

  1. Prospect digest 10 prospect listing
    By thethe in forum 2024: The Campaign to Re-Elect Snit for Four More Years and Make Atlanta Great Again!
    Replies: 166
    Last Post: 02-10-2017, 09:51 PM
  2. Interesting Fangraphs article on top 100 prospect Bias
    By zitothebrave in forum 2024: The Campaign to Re-Elect Snit for Four More Years and Make Atlanta Great Again!
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 12-26-2013, 12:13 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •