Around MLB 2017

[sturg33]

Dont rule out the Fighting Kemps yet. The Protectors.

LOL my new fantasy baseball team name

[NYCBrave]

I think it still comes down to Nats, Cubs, Dodgers

Definitely. But it certainly seems like those 2 wild card spots are open for the taking.

[bravesfanMatt]

Dont rule out the Fighting Kemps yet. The Protectors.

We picked up a game on everybody in front of us.

[UNCBlue012]

Shelby Miller to undergo Tommy John surgery. I cannot believe how great that trade turned out to be. (Not that it was bad beforehand)

[thewupk]

Shelby Miller to undergo Tommy John surgery. I cannot believe how great that trade turned out to be. (Not that it was bad beforehand)

gottem

[thewupk]

Definitely. But it certainly seems like those 2 wild card spots are open for the taking.

I'd agree with this.

[striker42]

Easton out for the year with a torn ACL. Huge blow for the Nats.

[NYCBrave]

Shelby Miller to undergo Tommy John surgery. I cannot believe how great that trade turned out to be. (Not that it was bad beforehand)

Just goes to show the huge risk you take with pitchers. That is unless he possibly originally suffered the injury last year during his horrendous year, using poor mechanics trying to fix his issues.

[bravesfanMatt]

We picked up a game on everybody in front of us.

Fallies collapse and we pick up another game on everyone ahead of us.

[bravesfanMatt]

We do need to respect the genius of the white sox. Trade your talent and lead your division. Hottest team in baseball. GENIUS!!!

[thethe]

We do need to respect the genius of the white sox. Trade your talent and lead your division. Hottest team in baseball. GENIUS!!!

Massive mis-read of the team. You add Sale and Eaton to that team and you might have a world series contender.

[nsacpi]

Massive mis-read of the team. You add Sale and Eaton to that team and you might have a world series contender.

Team ERA 2.96 x-FIP 4.26

we'll see how that sorts itself out

Additional point: regardless of where the White Sox were on the expected win curve at the end of last season, the returns on Eaton and Sale easily justified both trades

[Managuarantano's Volunteers]

Team ERA 2.96 x-FIP 4.26

we'll see how that sorts itself out

Additional point: regardless of where the White Sox were on the expected win curve at the end of last season, the returns on Eaton and Sale easily justified both trades

Also, Eaton is out for the year, so even if you're using current situation info, the White Sox may be better off (Sale would obviously help though, especially if he wasn't a locker room cancer).

[thethe]

Team ERA 2.96 x-FIP 4.26

we'll see how that sorts itself out

Additional point: regardless of where the White Sox were on the expected win curve at the end of last season, the returns on Eaton and Sale easily justified both trades

The returns were great but the point of all of this is to win a world series and the White may have massively underperformed in the past. If they end up being a mid to upper 80 win team (unlikely) then Sales and Eaton could have put them over the top.

[thethe]

Also, Eaton is out for the year, so even if you're using current situation info, the White Sox may be better off (Sale would obviously help though, especially if he wasn't a locker room cancer).

Can't use Eatons injury. It's more likely than not he doesn't get hurt if still on the sox.

[nsacpi]

The returns were great but the point of all of this is to win a world series and the White may have massively underperformed in the past. If they end up being a mid to upper 80 win team (unlikely) then Sales and Eaton could have put them over the top.

GMs have to operate in the realm of probabilities not possibilities. While anything is possible, I think any assessment of the White Sox at the end of last season would not find that they were likely WS contenders. They finished 78-84. Their record was consistent with their runs scored and runs scored against data.

Plus even if you believe that there was no compelling case for a rebuild, the trades they made for Sale and Easton looked at in isolation were very good trades.

Imo their chances of winning a WS at some point has increased quite a bit after those trades.

[Managuarantano's Volunteers]

Can't use Eatons injury. It's more likely than not he doesn't get hurt if still on the sox.

If you can't use Eaton's injury, then I wouldn't use the season to date records either as they might have been worse by luck if they were still on the Sox (despite having better players). Look at our record without KeMVP, for example.

Plus, a lot if good teams have done bad so far and vice versa, so I doubt the Sox run continues

[Southcack77]

GMs have to operate in the realm of probabilities not possibilities. While anything is possible, I think any assessment of the White Sox at the end of last season would not find that they were likely WS contenders. They finished 78-84. Their record was consistent with their runs scored and runs scored against data.

Plus even if you believe that there was no compelling case for a rebuild, the trades they made for Sale and Easton looked at in isolation were very good trades.

Imo their chances of winning a WS at some point has increased quite a bit after those trades.

I mean I guess. But they traded major league assets on good long term contracts for players that they hope will eventually become major league assets on good contracts. One wonders whether they might have been able to reform their roster around their young assets rather than blowing it up.

But sure, they got a good return out of their valuable assets.

[bravesfanMatt]

I mean I guess. But they traded major league assets on good long term contracts for players that they hope will eventually become major league assets on good contracts. One wonders whether they might have been able to reform their roster around their young assets rather than blowing it up.

But sure, they got a good return out of their valuable assets.

Small sample size says they are missing on most of them.

[Southcack77]

Small sample size says they are missing on most of them.

Well, somehow I'm guessing the folks who have killed the Braves in comparison on trades with a healthy serving of hindsight won't be issuing retractions later if called for.