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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    I included the estimate for Miller for the entire 4 years we got for him, which is how he got to 5.9 WAR
    Didn't the DBACKS tweak Miller's mechanics? He may not have had the struggles with Atlanta that he's had in Arizona.

    The analysis in the OP doesn't go anywhere near deep enough. You should continue to update the OP until all the pieces are included, because otherwise your conclusion is meaningless. There's quite a bit of WAR you left on the table in regards to draft picks, players you left out and money saved. Part of the money saved from trading Heyward, Upton and Kimbrel led to some positive WAR from Markakis, Colon, Dickey and the salary we took on to get touki.

    I just think you're better off grading each deal and just ditching your conclusion because it's too incomplete if you ignore the secondary pieces.
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    Also should consider financial cost/WAR.

    The 1.7 WAR per season is at a significantly higher cost than the 1.2 WAR per season in your conclusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by weso1 View Post
    Didn't the DBACKS tweak Miller's mechanics? He may not have had the struggles with Atlanta that he's had in Arizona.

    The analysis in the OP doesn't go anywhere near deep enough. You should continue to update the OP until all the pieces are included, because otherwise your conclusion is meaningless. There's quite a bit of WAR you left on the table in regards to draft picks, players you left out and money saved. Part of the money saved from trading Heyward, Upton and Kimbrel led to some positive WAR from Markakis, Colon, Dickey and the salary we took on to get touki.

    I just think you're better off grading each deal and just ditching your conclusion because it's too incomplete if you ignore the secondary pieces.
    Sure... if we want to get really granular, we can. I can always add in Austin Riley - but that will add in 6 years as well, and I project Riley to produce 0 WAR in the majors, so that will bring down the avg WAR/season we got back.

    I kept it to headliners bc those are the likely difference makers

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