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    GDT: September 14, 2013 Padres @ Braves

    Lineups posted later.

    Probable starters are Robbie Erlin and Kris Medlen.

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    #Braves lineup: EJohnson 4, JUpton 9, Freeman 3, Gattis 7 McCann 2, CJohnson 5, Simmons 6, BUpton 8, Medlen 1

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    If we can't beat them tonight facing whoever the hell this is, I give up when it comes to the Padres.

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    Fredi has real trouble with the top of the lineup. It is so bizarre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalyn View Post
    Fredi has real trouble with the top of the lineup. It is so bizarre.
    It's not that bizarre. He just doesn't want to put a legit hitter at the top of the lineup, because he wants them up with men on base, and you're guaranteed to have PAs without base runners if you're at the top of the lineup.

    However, he just doesn't get that this also means that you're not maximizing your chance of getting people on base for your middle of the order guys. It's a deficiency in logic on his part.

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    Gotta beat the Fathers tonight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Temo View Post
    It's not that bizarre. He just doesn't want to put a legit hitter at the top of the lineup, because he wants them up with men on base, and you're guaranteed to have PAs without base runners if you're at the top of the lineup.

    However, he just doesn't get that this also means that you're not maximizing your chance of getting people on base for your middle of the order guys. It's a deficiency in logic on his part.
    I guess I find it bizarre that you can have so many deficiencies in logic and still manage in the big leagues for an extended period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalyn View Post
    I guess I find it bizarre that you can have so many deficiencies in logic and still manage in the big leagues for an extended period.
    An impressive win loss record here is why he's gonna be extended I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NinersSBChamps View Post
    An impressive win loss record here is why he's gonna be extended I think.

    That is akin to signing Russ Ortiz to a long contract because he won 21 games in 2003.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalyn View Post
    That is akin to signing Russ Ortiz to a long contract because he won 21 games in 2003.
    I don't agree with it. Just saying what I think is going to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NinersSBChamps View Post
    I don't agree with it. Just saying what I think is going to happen.
    Ah. Yeah. I agree. Unfortunately.

    Just shows that Fredi does not have a monopoly on deficiencies in logic.

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    Uggla really getting buried on the bench this week. I've been advocating more PT for Elliot Johnson, but I never thought he should be getting most of the starts at second.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Uggla really getting buried on the bench this week. I've been advocating more PT for Elliot Johnson, but I never thought he should be getting most of the starts at second.
    Or at the top of the lineup. It is just silly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalyn View Post
    Or at the top of the lineup. It is just silly.
    Sometimes I think Fredi has this passive-aggressive way of reacting to criticism. "So you think I'm playing Uggla too much. Fine I'll bench him. Hope that makes everyone happy."

    Some people might want to bench Uggla. But I'm not one of them. I want a reduction in his playing time and post-season playing time to be driven by who's hot and who's not. But I want Uggla (and BJ Upton for that matter) to continue to play about half the games during the rest of the regular season so that they do have an opportunity to get hot. If Uggla goes back to being as productive as he was in the first half, that would be a significant boost for the team.

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    very surprised Uggs not in there vs LHP. Guess Fredi's finally had it with him.

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    Frustrations aside, it is truly amazing that the team is able to sit 30% of the payroll and still be in position that we are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PawPawMaxwell View Post
    Frustrations aside, it is truly amazing that the team is able to sit 30% of the payroll and still be in position that we are.
    They are both dead weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NinersSBChamps View Post
    They are both dead weight.
    BJ may get out of this funk and produce again. However, I think Father Time might be getting the best of Uggla.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garmel View Post
    BJ may get out of this funk and produce again. However, I think Father Time might be getting the best of Uggla.
    FWIW the last bad offensive year for Bossman he got hot at the right time, as of September 18th he had a .660 OPS then after that for the reg season he posted a .988 OPS. So hopefully he can do the same here. And then have an October a lot like he did in 2008 where he posted a .985 OPS
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    I'm actually starting to not like Gattis he swings at the first pitch so much. Its infuriating.
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