Keeping people alive that nature has decided shouldn't is going to bankrupt our nation.Originally Posted by cajunrevenge
Keeping people alive that nature has decided shouldn't is going to bankrupt our nation.
I hope you never have a kid with leukemia or something; otherwise I'll expect the same "nature" response.
I had a mother that died of cancer when I was 8. I know more about experiencing the unfairness of life than most.
Very sorry to hear that. Those people that nature wants gone are mothers and fathers too. They are all going to die eventually. But that doesn't mean we should do nothing. Life, liberty, pursuit of happiness and all that. Not all of them are 95-year-old "I just eat my peas and exercise" people. If we have to spend more for research and helping poor elderly and sick people, then so be it. I understand government can't and shouldn't do 100 percent of it but we waste money on far less important things. And if the choice is giving more help to the poor and elderly or giving a billionaire enough to keep all his assets, then I know what I'm choosing.
jpx7 (06-30-2017)
It would be one of many reasons. We can afford it in the sense that we wouldn't be in more debt than we already are now. We just prioritize other things like the war on/off terror and the war on drugs/mass incarceration. We have spent 4 trillion on the war on terror since 9/11 and that doesn't count a trillion more that will be spent on medical care for the veterans the wars make. That would pay for a **** load of healthcare. We spend 50 billion a year on the war on drugs and billions more on incarcerating people on victimless crimes. Over 1 trillion total spent on the war on drugs so far. The economic effect of legalizing all but hardcore drugs would have a huge economic boost that could generate hundreds of billions of dollars a year.
I know I have made that argument many times now but it really is that simple. We can bomb brown people in the middle East or we can all have healthcare. Can't afford both.
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@jpx, not ignoring your response, just don't have time to give it the thoughtful reply it deserves.
Will get to it
Could you imagine the economic impact of cutting this nonsense and giving the money back to the people in the form of a tax cut?
oh, so you are for death panels now?
how fascist of you
are you for getting rid of life support?
are you pro death now?
is every life precious?
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"When Fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross"
Life has a beginning and end. If nature dictates that a flame is to expire then so be it.
Do you understand how much cancer rates are projected to increase? How about alzheiemers? The treatment of these diseases is going to skyrocket along with costs. I'm a supporter of research for new cures but treatment on life support which isn't even a life is a cost nightmare
so, you're cool with death panels now and view it like the nazi's did and don't think it's worth saving
got ya
yeah, i know the cost. treat the person and save them. it's really simple.
"For there is always light, if only we are brave enough to see it. If only we are brave enough to be it." Amanda Gorman
"When Fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross"
Save them? Your definition of saving is not mine.
Godwins law. Never fails.
i didn't mention hitler
i mentioned nazi's aka fascists
who saw the treatment for the things listed and thought it wasn't worth saving
at least own your sick stance that is similar to their approach
"For there is always light, if only we are brave enough to see it. If only we are brave enough to be it." Amanda Gorman
"When Fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross"
I must've missed all those death panels before ACA was enacted.
Goldy is so cute, these days
death panels before were just insurance companies rejecting care cause of "pre existing conditions"
aka: the free market
"For there is always light, if only we are brave enough to see it. If only we are brave enough to be it." Amanda Gorman
"When Fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross"
Can you point me to all the people who were denied medical care because of lack of insurance?
Also - please note that US health care WAS NOT a free market prior to ACA... I think you're all smart enough to know that, but too dishonest to drop that narrative.
your question has nothing to do with what i said and is purposely trying to change the subject
"For there is always light, if only we are brave enough to see it. If only we are brave enough to be it." Amanda Gorman
"When Fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross"
You're saying we had the equivalent of death panels before the miracle of ACA from your lord and savior.
You and your crowd are also screeching about the millions of people who are sure to die without the miracle of ACA.
Surely, then, you can easily point me to COUNTLESS examples of people being denied medical care because of lack of insurance. You've posted many memes and cartoons suggesting as such. There has to be thousands of real world examples. I'd like to see some.
I look forwsrd to you not addressing this post. The golfly way
see, you project what you think my stance is on to me.
thus why you aren't fun anymore
i want to get rid of aca but it's better than the old way
and better than the tax cut being sold as a healthcare plan
you're being intellectually dishonest cause what you are asking about isn't what i said
but sure, it's my lord and savior. lol
have fun little one
"For there is always light, if only we are brave enough to see it. If only we are brave enough to be it." Amanda Gorman
"When Fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross"
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