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    Sahil Kapur‏Verified account @sahilkapur

    If Trumpcare fails, Sanders says he wants to

    —Lower the Medicare age to 55
    —Add a public option in 50 states
    —Lower prescription drug costs


    Sen Franken made same comment today

    This is going to get interesting. My reading today says (R) is 7 votes short
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    Quote Originally Posted by Runnin View Post
    David Brooks
    Brooks may be right there, but I always have trouble giving the man credit, when most of his op-eds include this sort of tone-deaf nonsense:

    Recently I took a friend with only a high school degree to lunch. Insensitively, I led her into a gourmet sandwich shop. Suddenly I saw her face freeze up as she was confronted with sandwiches named “Padrino” and “Pomodoro” and ingredients like soppressata, capicollo and a striata baguette. I quickly asked her if she wanted to go somewhere else and she anxiously nodded yes and we ate Mexican.
    I'd like to say I can't believe we're the product of the same small, elite(/elitist) undergraduate institution, but I knew at least three folks who I could easily see becoming my generation's well-meaning, tone-deaf, center-right voice of pablum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    Sahil Kapur‏Verified account @sahilkapur

    If Trumpcare fails, Sanders says he wants to

    —Lower the Medicare age to 55
    —Add a public option in 50 states
    —Lower prescription drug costs


    Sen Franken made same comment today

    This is going to get interesting. My reading today says (R) is 7 votes short
    Bernie* would've won; Bernie will win.

    *Also the product of the abovementioned undergraduate institution.
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    Bernie is a fool... a fraud... and a hypocrite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Bernie is a fool... a fraud... and a hypocrite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpx7 View Post
    I can give you countless examples of his foolishness, fraud, and hypocrisy.

    But apparently that's all you need to win the presidency so you may be right

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpx7 View Post
    Bernie* would've won; Bernie will win.

    *Also the product of the abovementioned undergraduate institution.
    In real life Bernie never got to the general election and will be 76 in 2020.
    Perhaps what worked against Sanders more than anything was, he became a registered Democrat to run for President. No major party is going to fall in line with someone who 2 years earlier wasn't a member / fund raiser / or even a party voice. It is to his credit and his surprise he did as well as he did.
    Colin Powell comes to mind. Neither Sanders or Powell brings the resume DDE brought in 1952
    That is just the reality of the situation.


    Looking at Bernie candidates around the country none have fared as well as hoped.
    It is the policies not the personality.

    In this case too -- if you can't win on policy resort to politics and if politics fails go to the personal.
    Sanders is just not as popular as David Brooks people think. For a lots of reasons.

    I agree with you in that he would be a great President, if he was 55 or 60 years old and had time to build coalitions inside the party. HRC had those coalitions -- isn't that the name of politics? Look at Brexit in England PM May oman is struggling to stay in power because --- she is having a hard time finding people to coalesce around her.
    That is the same reason Trump was bound to fail -- no coalition. At least of our citizenry
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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    Sanders is just not as popular as David Brooks people think. For a lots of reasons.
    Not sure Brooks' relevance, since he's a conservative commentator, but Sanders is currently the most popular Senator in the whole upper body of Congress, and one of the country's more popular national politicians, according to multiple polls.

    I'm really more of a Corbyn man, myself, but Sanders is a good means-to-end dude.
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    Teen Abortions Surged In Texas After Republicans Defunded Planned Parenthood
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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    Karen Finney‏Verified account @finneyk 11m11 minutes ago

    Teen Abortions Surged In Texas After Republicans Defunded Planned Parenthood
    If folks truly want to decrease the number of abortions amongst the population, more support for robust sex-education and reproductive health services is the way to do it, period; countless studies have demonstrated this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpx7 View Post
    If folks truly want to decrease the number of abortions amongst the population, more support for robust sex-education and reproductive health services is the way to do it, period; countless studies have demonstrated this.
    I agree with all of that but there are more pregnancies because of how much our society has fallen due to social media. I don't think we will ever get back to a point where our youth makes more responsible life choices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpx7 View Post
    David Brooks' sandwich story
    Very few things make me cringe anymore, but that excerpt certainly did.
    Last edited by Hawk; 07-11-2017 at 09:25 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    Very few things make me cringe anymore, but that excerpt certainly did.
    Are you saying, unlike Brooks, you don't believe in meats-tested social supports?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpx7 View Post
    Are you saying, unlike Brooks, you don't believe in meats-tested social supports?
    All I can tell you is that I've always believed Mexican food is the lowest common denominator.

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    LOLGOP‏ @LOLGOP

    GOP wants to uninsure 18+ million, gut Medicaid & make 27 million Americans' employer insurance useless in a crisis without 1 PUBLIC HEARING
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    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/29/o...care-bill.html



    But the Republican proposal also raises a more basic issue: Who will decide what constitutes a pre-existing condition?

    Before the Affordable Care Act, profit-taking insurers had lowered the bar for what was considered a pre-existing condition to include nearly every malady, making it difficult for many healthy patients to get affordable insurance.

    ...

    The committee report found that the insurance companies turned down one out of every seven applicants with pre-existing conditions. Such denials had jumped by nearly 50 percent between 2007 and 2009, as the apparently successful financial strategy gained sway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    LOLGOP‏ @LOLGOP

    GOP wants to uninsure 18+ million, gut Medicaid & make 27 million Americans' employer insurance useless in a crisis without 1 PUBLIC HEARING
    You keep posting these things as if they are facts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    You keep posting these things as if they are facts.
    He believes them as facts

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    With an elementary understanding of the legislative process you would not mistake projections as facts.

    Then it would follow to not making statements like the one above.

    I am getting tired of explaining 9th grade civics to you and your buddies.
    This is how we wound up with Trump

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    Senate GOP health bill quietly brings back preexisting conditions
    A loophole could allow insurance plans to once again discriminate against the sick.


    https://www.vox.com/health-care/2017...ing-conditions

    ...............

    Based on changes to the GOP health bill, the part of the ACA the GOP apparently feels strongest about is upending the 1965 Medicaid law.
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