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    So Dickey and Colon have been pretty massive busts as signings up to this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    not getting around on the fastball
    I'm sure he's looking slider all the time now.

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    Braves have put themselves in a precarious and entirely self inflicted position with Swanson. They are caught between "how long can we keep him up without ruining him" and "will we ruin him if we send him down."

    He wouldn't be the first rushed star to flame out before they really got started. And that wouldn't be on Swanson IMO but the FO.

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    So will we lose by 10 for the third time in a week? We're tough to watch right now and there's no end in sight.
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    If we were more competitive you might send Swanson down. But might as well let him learn here at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horsehide Harry View Post
    Braves have put themselves in a precarious and entirely self inflicted position with Swanson. They are caught between "how long can we keep him up without ruining him" and "will we ruin him if we send him down."

    He wouldn't be the first rushed star to flame out before they really got started. And that wouldn't be on Swanson IMO but the FO.
    just an awful decision by the FO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horsehide Harry View Post
    Braves have put themselves in a precarious and entirely self inflicted position with Swanson. They are caught between "how long can we keep him up without ruining him" and "will we ruin him if we send him down."

    He wouldn't be the first rushed star to flame out before they really got started. And that wouldn't be on Swanson IMO but the FO.
    I'd give him the week. If he's still struggling next Sunday, flip him and camargo

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    not getting around on the fastball
    I think he's adjusted to the idea that he's getting fed sliders in pitchers' counts, and he's doing a better job laying off of them, but it's made him slower to the fastball.

    He's getting abused by major league pitching right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBravos View Post
    I remember we basically had about one pitching prospect left in the system (Sims), when he was fired.
    Well I mean the goal at the time for him was to compete, not rebuild...

    And its' not like we had the Top 3 payroll in baseball like when JS was in charge. We've only accumulated all this "pitching" from unloading talent that helped us compete, and benefit of a nice draft position from sucking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    I'd give him the week. If he's still struggling next Sunday, flip him and camargo
    I could live with that I guess. I just hope the damage isn't permanent.

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    You want to blame some of our pitching struggles on the seemingly hitter friendly Sun Trust Park but if that was the case we'd be hitting better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by striker42 View Post
    You want to blame some of our pitching struggles on the seemingly hitter friendly Sun Trust Park but if that was the case we'd be hitting better.
    Good pitching beats ok hitting.

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    Assuming this game is a loss, the team is now 7-18 (1-8 at home) if you take out the hapless Padres. I know we don't cherry-pick statistics, but I don't even feel that Atlanta has faced any of the best teams in baseball yet. They haven't seen the Cubs, Dodgers, Astros, Rockies, etc. except for a 3-game session with Washington.

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    The Cardinals have been grabbing us by the pu55y in this series.
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    I'm thinking I should hold up about buying my June 16-17th tickets. 1-5 homestand, tough road trip this week, Swanson likely to be sent down any time now, Julio and folty falling apart, etc... there will be nothing to be excited about with the big club come June 1st. I think I can get good, cheap tickets if I wait. What you guys think?

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    Our defense is consistently crossed up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forever Fredi View Post
    Well I mean the goal at the time for him was to compete, not rebuild...

    And its' not like we had the Top 3 payroll in baseball like when JS was in charge. We've only accumulated all this "pitching" from unloading talent that helped us compete, and benefit of a nice draft position from sucking.
    We had the youngest team in baseball in 2013 and finished with 96 wins. Young players often struggle. We had a young team. It struggled in 2014, and we bailed completely. And now we hear talk about getting a young team again and how Wren ruined this and that and blah blah blah. Not saying he didn't make some colossal mistakes (Fredi), but he was clearly not the only problem.

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    Cards have 34 hits (so far) in the series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyYoung31 View Post
    Is it too much to ask for the Braves not to **** the bed on my birthday?
    Happy Birthday!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyYoung31 View Post
    Is it too much to ask for the Braves not to **** the bed on my birthday?
    Hey, it's delayed gratification. They're trying to get you a #1 draft pick for your birthday.

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