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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    May raises the threat level in England. Says another attack is imminent.
    Damn it Ariana, cancel your tour before any more people die!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Obama and Merkel are too blame for this massive spike in terror attacks. The premature exit of Iraq as well as the pathetic foreign policy in places like Syria/Yemen/Libya have allowed radical Islamists safe havens. Merkel has destroyed Europe with pushing of migration.

    History will ultimately be the judge but right now the world is drastically more unsafe due to those two leaders.
    Your premise is ridiculous and that's the best thing I can say about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    "Why are these attacks successful?" Simple: because media has deliberately made even talking about solving the problem unmentionable.
    These attacks are successful (to those that do them) because of lizard brain reactions like yours. They are easy to pull off because they are easy to pull off. Anyone who wants to kill a lot of people can do it fairly easily.

    The real question is: Why did a 23 years old named Salmon Ramadan Abedi, with his whole life in front of him, chose to end it in this horrible way? Explain to us how a more draconian stance towards Muslims is going to change the minds of the Salmon Abedis of the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oklahomahawk View Post
    Damn it Ariana, cancel your tour before any more people die!!!
    America has trollopy teenyboppers on speed dial. If Ariana cancels, rest assured that Justin Bieber will be there to save the day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Runnin View Post
    These attacks are successful (to those that do them) because of lizard brain reactions like yours. They are easy to pull off because they are easy to pull off. Anyone who wants to kill a lot of people can do it fairly easily.

    The real question is: Why did a 23 years old named Salmon Ramadan Abedi, with his whole life in front of him, chose to end it in this horrible way? Explain to us how a more draconian stance towards Muslims is going to change the minds of the Salmon Abedis of the world.
    In the harshest stance if you don't allow mass migration of Muslims then these communities are safer. The migrants are bringing in radicalized thoughts which are contributing to the infection within the natural citizen born population. That's one quick way to reduce the chances.

    The other way is to interrupt the ability for these groups to plan and organize freely. That means not leaving Iraq too early so the standing army could be defeated in a few short years. That means being decisive in who to back during conflicts and those parties that are in the best interest of western civilization.


    So now...how does being nice to Muslims work? What hasn't he last 10 years taught us?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    "Why are these attacks successful?" Simple: because media has deliberately made even talking about solving the problem unmentionable.
    While I agree that the way the media has decided to talk about Islam (and religion in general) is a problem, it's not THAT problem. Bush decided to join a religious war. The ISIS statement mentions "servants of the cross" and the bomb had nails it sounds like, etc. To many there (and to many here) it is about religion vs religion. You want to point fingers and blame some group on our side? There you go. We've had politicians and TV evangelists and people like Joe the plumber on the news talking about the Christian god vs Islam and **** like that. This is why the war is still going. Religious wars don't just stop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    America has trollopy teenyboppers on speed dial. If Ariana cancels, rest assured that Justin Bieber will be there to save the day.
    But be honest, would anybody other than those actually blown up really complain if an area where Justin Beiber was at the time gets blown up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    In the harshest stance if you don't allow mass migration of Muslims then these communities are safer. The migrants are bringing in radicalized thoughts which are contributing to the infection within the natural citizen born population. That's one quick way to reduce the chances.

    The other way is to interrupt the ability for these groups to plan and organize freely. That means not leaving Iraq too early so the standing army could be defeated in a few short years. That means being decisive in who to back during conflicts and those parties that are in the best interest of western civilization.


    So now...how does being nice to Muslims work? What hasn't he last 10 years taught us?
    The idea that Obama was "nice" to Muslims is a joke.

    check the drone budget and the civilian deaths (pardon me - "collateral damage")

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    I answered this under my psuedo name and not Site Admin on another board but it is a decent debate on how to stop it. I think mine has the most promise because it is similar to Dalyn in a out of the box sort of way in regards to religion.

    "The correct way to fight this is the sane, non-radical Muslims that are NOT of the Middle East, Afghan should exert their own pressure on them, even outright disband, alter the religious followings/ways like Christians HAD to do because burning people, hacking people limbs off, stoning to death is barbaric and counter productive. You rarely see Malaysia or Indonesia or even India result to these tactics of terrorism and pretty much their Muslim faith have evolve to almost equality as Christian dominant faith, you still see some stoning or hacking but it is rare. Even the American Muslims know that what I said before is total barbarity. Look at all the sports stars, congressmen, celebrities that are Muslims. They constantly preach against this type of behavior that is in the book they read. Just like Christians do not even pay attention to the Old Testament because it was barbaric and why the new one was written. Unfortunately Muslims don't have anything similar but by deeds alone they have evolve and try to stray from the barbaric part of the Quran."

    Basically Islam is what Christianity was at the end 200 plus years ago. Inquisitions and atypical behavior for the most part banished and only sects would come up time and time again bringing us the Salem witch trials, the guyana tragedy, the Waco tragedy, the Westboro Church loonies and Church of Scientology. They are a subsect of Christianity warped. Just like the present that Muslims, some still grasp that culture but in much bigger populations but Christians of that time centralized until they got a clue and found out that barbarity is not the solution, life is and that each life is important. The three mentioned countries constitute most of the worlds practicing Muslims and they are getting away from it because it is evolving. Most of them in the states have already evolved or spring up their own. Most black Muslims born of Christian parents created their own version taking the good from both religions and trying to discard the bad. That is evolution. I don't know how we can incorporate that in the middle east but we need the Big Three to exert some pressure on Saudi Arabia and Iran to change their way of Islam life as it is not conducive to world wide policy or morality of practicing individuals.

    One commented that we should stop backing Israel and most people laughed because within a month there will be 75 mil dead and a lot of radioactive clouds that can reach other parts of Africa, India and Russia. Not only we still have to control Israel, Russia would like that as well anything else you heard is just BS. Too many Israeli jews in both America and Russia.

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    The facts coming out about this scumbag now just leave more questions. How does someone like this not get apprehended?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    The bomber was British

    Son of Libyan immigrants.
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    It’s over."


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    your point ?
    The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to make sure he doesn’t get a gun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    your point ?
    and your point?

    Doesn't matter if he was from mars or Galilean satellite, pick one. He murdered a lot of people for a cause that is thousands of miles away and he was taught to hate and kill as many as he could.

    If you don't make a point of where he is from, he wouldn't made his point, dummy.

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    he was a British citizen -- born bred went to British schools drank in British pubs ate British fish and chips.
    Grew up on BBC
    He was not a Libyan he was a Brit

    1) do we/US now impose international law because we over reacted to 19 men with box cutters ?

    2) Do we impose sanctions (or worse ) on Great Britain because a British citizen suicide bombed an event in, Great Britain

    Y'all need to get a grip

    This is terrible yet the same day an ROTC graduate was murdered on the street of Baltimore because he had the audacity to be black and not move when a drunk Alt Right self avowed racist told him to.
    I think that requires a bit more of our attention than we have given. Because? I think, a brown skin Muslim did something equally deplorable is an easier target than to deal with our own issues with race and inequality
    I'm sure you know the name of the singer at the concert -- quick without Google, what was the ROTC grad's name?

    Let's clean up our own house before we tell the rest of the world how they should and shouldn't live
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    He was banned from local Mosque and reported to authorities at least 5 times.

    But remember, the moderate muslims just trying to live peacefully aren't doing their job.
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    UK has identified over 23k jihadists in their country. And that's just the most radicalized.

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    This is my shocked face.
    "Donald Trump will serve a second term as president of the United States.

    It’s over."


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    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/365517...icide-bombers/



    Apparently the dip**** reported his teacher for Islamaphobia for condemning suicide bombers.


    Also said he was radicalized during trips home to Libya where his parents moved back to after the fall of Gaddafi. Thanks Hilldog and Obama. More unintended blowback from meddling in the middle East. If we don't remove Gaddafi this moron would still be smoking weed not harming anyone. But according to Obama's DEA chief smoking weed is just as bad as being a suicide bomber.
    "Donald Trump will serve a second term as president of the United States.

    It’s over."


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    Why is it that most explanations of these atrocities are so reductionistic? From my perspective the factors are legion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BedellBrave View Post
    Why is it that most explanations of these atrocities are so reductionistic? From my perspective the factors are legion.
    I could be wrong but I'm guessing the leadership is always trying to put things into terms that their followers can understand/comprehend, ie the KISS strategy. But hey, that's just me.

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