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    MINORS FINAL THURSDAY 6/8 ... Watch the aces deal!


    THURSDAY SCOREBOARD

    CLASS AAA


    Gwinnett 4, Charlotte 1

    WP: Weigel (2-1) 6 IP, 3 H, 1 ER, 3 BB, 6 K
    Dirks (Save, 2) 3 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 3 K

    Tuiasosopo 1-4, 2B, 2 RBI
    Landoni 2-3, R
    Du. Peterson 1-4
    J. Peterson 1-4, R

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    CLASS AA

    Mississippi 1, Biloxi 0

    SP: Gohara 5 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 7 K
    WP: Sobotka (3-1) 3 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 1 K
    Reynolds (Save, 1) 1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 0 K

    D. Moore 1-2, 2B, RBI (.133)
    Scivicque 1-2, 2B, R, BB
    Acuna 0-4

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    ADVANCED CLASS A

    Florida 10, Charlotte 2


    WP: Franco (1-4) 6 IP, 6 H, 2 ER, 2 BB, 1 K
    Webb 2 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 4 K
    Graham 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 1 K

    Davidson 2-5, HR (5th), 2 RBI, OF assist
    Lago 2-5, HR (1st), 2 RBI
    Neslony 4-5, 2 2B, R, RBI
    Riley 2-4, 2 R, BB
    Castro 3-5, R, RBI
    Didder 0-3, R, 2 BB, 2 SB

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    CLASS A

    Augusta 7, Rome 6

    Walk-off win for Augusta

    SP: Wentz 3.1 IP, 2 H, 3 ER, 3 BB, 6 K
    Kennedy 2.2 IP, 4 H, 1 ER, 1 BB, 5 K
    Hellinger (0-2) 2.2 IP, 1 H, 0 ER(1R), 1 BB, 1 K

    Concepcion 2-4, 2 R, HR (4th), RBI, SB
    Pache 2-4, R, RBI, BB
    Hoeksta 1-5, 3B, R, RBI
    Ventura 2-6

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    SHORT-SEASON

    DSL Dodgers 5, DSL Braves 2

    SP: De Jesus 2 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 0 K
    Montilla 2 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 3 K
    LP: Javier 1.2 IP, 1 H, 0 ER(3R), 2 BB, 1 K

    Y. Lopez 0-3, R, BB, 2 SB
    Severino 1-3, 2B
    Negret 1-5, HR (1st), RBI

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    Saw this on elsewhere, thought I would share.. Scouting report on Austin Riley from BP scout..


    Austin Riley

    Born: 04/02/1997 (Age: 20) Bats: Right Throws: Right Height: 6' 3" Weight: 220 Primary Position: 3B Secondary Position:

    Physical/Health

    XL Frame, thick, wide frame, decent fill throughout body with more muscle to fill out upper body, well-proportioned body with a little more length in leg, baseball butt.

    Evaluator: Javier Barragan

    Report Date: 06/05/2017

    Dates Seen: 5/1,5/3-5/4,5/19-5/21,6/5

    Affiliate: Florida Fire Frogs (High A, Braves)

    MLB ETA: 2019

    Risk Factor: High

    OFP(Overall Future Potential): 60

    Realistic Role: 50; Second-Division Starter

    Makeup

    Focused, prepared, comes to play, gets along well with his teammate, controlled emotions, confident, baseball player.

    Tools, Future Grade, Report

    Hit 50

    Front hip leaks, long to the ball, good bat speed, weight off of backfoot at contact, good extension through contact; lift approach, loose hands, swing can get long due to poor weight shift and bat wrap leading to swings and misses in zone, though has an idea of how pitchers are attacking him, has a feel for barrel; with improved weight balance and more plate appearances against advanced stuff, hit tool will improve.

    Power 70

    EZ power to the gaps, high and far, easy power, more power to come with improved load, weight balance, pitch recognition and leverage. Plays down in-game due to present balance issue.

    Baserunning/Speed 40
    Moves adequately for size, slow acceleration, alert, mildly aggressive on base paths, can take extra bag. Will slow as he fills out. 4.33 down the line.


    Glove 60

    Athletic for size, loose actions, moves well spatially, good reactions off bat, smooth fielder, good glove control, makes all plays, focused, prepared on every pitch.

    Arm 60

    More than enough at third, can make throw from deep third, straight carry usually on bag, can make from different arm and fielding angles, clean arm action with some length, threw in low 90s off the mound in high school, has shown enough arm strength with easy effort but there seems to be more there.

    Overall

    One of the more exciting players in the FSLl, Austin Riley stands out. He has size and smooth actions. He plays an athletic third base, handling many challenging plays ahead, behind, and to his side. There is present game power, and visible raw power to right-center field. His hit tool is below average because of leakage and weight balance but with further instruction and repetition, the 20-year-old's hit tool will improve. Riley has the defense and power combo to be an Atlanta favorite, all contingent on his weight balance at the plate. There's a significant gap between where Riley is now where he could be, hence the high risk factor. Still, I believe he has the aptitude and ability to make those adjustments and justify his ceiling.

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    Lot to like there... ^
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    Also saw Meds was promoted to AAA.. not sure if that got mentioned somewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    Also saw Meds was promoted to AAA.. not sure if that got mentioned somewhere.
    Any report on medlen's velocity?

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Any report on medlen's velocity?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    Saw this on elsewhere, thought I would share.. Scouting report on Austin Riley from BP scout..


    Austin Riley

    Born: 04/02/1997 (Age: 20) Bats: Right Throws: Right Height: 6' 3" Weight: 220 Primary Position: 3B Secondary Position:

    Physical/Health

    XL Frame, thick, wide frame, decent fill throughout body with more muscle to fill out upper body, well-proportioned body with a little more length in leg, baseball butt.

    Evaluator: Javier Barragan

    Report Date: 06/05/2017

    Dates Seen: 5/1,5/3-5/4,5/19-5/21,6/5

    Affiliate: Florida Fire Frogs (High A, Braves)

    MLB ETA: 2019

    Risk Factor: High

    OFP(Overall Future Potential): 60

    Realistic Role: 50; Second-Division Starter

    Makeup

    Focused, prepared, comes to play, gets along well with his teammate, controlled emotions, confident, baseball player.

    Tools, Future Grade, Report

    Hit 50

    Front hip leaks, long to the ball, good bat speed, weight off of backfoot at contact, good extension through contact; lift approach, loose hands, swing can get long due to poor weight shift and bat wrap leading to swings and misses in zone, though has an idea of how pitchers are attacking him, has a feel for barrel; with improved weight balance and more plate appearances against advanced stuff, hit tool will improve.

    Power 70

    EZ power to the gaps, high and far, easy power, more power to come with improved load, weight balance, pitch recognition and leverage. Plays down in-game due to present balance issue.

    Baserunning/Speed 40
    Moves adequately for size, slow acceleration, alert, mildly aggressive on base paths, can take extra bag. Will slow as he fills out. 4.33 down the line.


    Glove 60

    Athletic for size, loose actions, moves well spatially, good reactions off bat, smooth fielder, good glove control, makes all plays, focused, prepared on every pitch.

    Arm 60

    More than enough at third, can make throw from deep third, straight carry usually on bag, can make from different arm and fielding angles, clean arm action with some length, threw in low 90s off the mound in high school, has shown enough arm strength with easy effort but there seems to be more there.

    Overall

    One of the more exciting players in the FSLl, Austin Riley stands out. He has size and smooth actions. He plays an athletic third base, handling many challenging plays ahead, behind, and to his side. There is present game power, and visible raw power to right-center field. His hit tool is below average because of leakage and weight balance but with further instruction and repetition, the 20-year-old's hit tool will improve. Riley has the defense and power combo to be an Atlanta favorite, all contingent on his weight balance at the plate. There's a significant gap between where Riley is now where he could be, hence the high risk factor. Still, I believe he has the aptitude and ability to make those adjustments and justify his ceiling.
    Interesting to see positive reviews on the defense and the bat speed.

    Still only 20. Not everyone can be Acuna, Allard or Soroka. Riley seems to be on a path where he'll be 22-23 in AAA and then maybe that bat forces its way to ATL.

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    that's pretty good stuff on Riley, especially with his defense and bat speed.

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    Yeah, very positive report on Riley. Obviously those grades are ceiling grades, but that is about as positive as any report we've ever seen on him. I think it's fair to say we can put the bat speed questions to rest. So now the questions are whether he can continue to develop his hitting ability, limit the K's, and retain enough speed.

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    taking an early peak at DSL stuff......

    Yefri Del Rosario was good in his first start 3 innings, no runs, a couple Ks and BBs, he was a big signing last year $800k IIRC. There were some good reports on his breaking stuff being pretty advanced for a kid his age. I've said it before, but I think several of out J2 signings get overlooked a bit because of Maitan/Guitirrez/Severino. Del Rosario, Soto, Pena and Contreras were all big bonus babies.

    Antonio Sucre was a J2 signing last year, 17 years old right now. He's only 2-15, but both hits have been homers, there was a blurb from Gondee that Sucre had good power projection when he signed, obviously encouraging to see two home runs already. Keep in mind nobody on the DSL Braves hit more than three HRs the entire season last year.

    Charles Reyes (who I can't find anything on) was another J2 signing last year, another 17 year old; he's hitting .438/.526/.563 with 4 SOs and 3 BBs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    Saw this on elsewhere, thought I would share.. Scouting report on Austin Riley from BP scout..


    Austin Riley

    Born: 04/02/1997 (Age: 20) Bats: Right Throws: Right Height: 6' 3" Weight: 220 Primary Position: 3B Secondary Position:

    Physical/Health

    XL Frame, thick, wide frame, decent fill throughout body with more muscle to fill out upper body, well-proportioned body with a little more length in leg, baseball butt.

    Evaluator: Javier Barragan

    Report Date: 06/05/2017

    Dates Seen: 5/1,5/3-5/4,5/19-5/21,6/5

    Affiliate: Florida Fire Frogs (High A, Braves)

    MLB ETA: 2019

    Risk Factor: High

    OFP(Overall Future Potential): 60

    Realistic Role: 50; Second-Division Starter

    Makeup

    Focused, prepared, comes to play, gets along well with his teammate, controlled emotions, confident, baseball player.

    Tools, Future Grade, Report

    Hit 50

    Front hip leaks, long to the ball, good bat speed, weight off of backfoot at contact, good extension through contact; lift approach, loose hands, swing can get long due to poor weight shift and bat wrap leading to swings and misses in zone, though has an idea of how pitchers are attacking him, has a feel for barrel; with improved weight balance and more plate appearances against advanced stuff, hit tool will improve.

    Power 70

    EZ power to the gaps, high and far, easy power, more power to come with improved load, weight balance, pitch recognition and leverage. Plays down in-game due to present balance issue.

    Baserunning/Speed 40
    Moves adequately for size, slow acceleration, alert, mildly aggressive on base paths, can take extra bag. Will slow as he fills out. 4.33 down the line.


    Glove 60

    Athletic for size, loose actions, moves well spatially, good reactions off bat, smooth fielder, good glove control, makes all plays, focused, prepared on every pitch.

    Arm 60

    More than enough at third, can make throw from deep third, straight carry usually on bag, can make from different arm and fielding angles, clean arm action with some length, threw in low 90s off the mound in high school, has shown enough arm strength with easy effort but there seems to be more there.

    Overall

    One of the more exciting players in the FSLl, Austin Riley stands out. He has size and smooth actions. He plays an athletic third base, handling many challenging plays ahead, behind, and to his side. There is present game power, and visible raw power to right-center field. His hit tool is below average because of leakage and weight balance but with further instruction and repetition, the 20-year-old's hit tool will improve. Riley has the defense and power combo to be an Atlanta favorite, all contingent on his weight balance at the plate. There's a significant gap between where Riley is now where he could be, hence the high risk factor. Still, I believe he has the aptitude and ability to make those adjustments and justify his ceiling.
    That is the description of an All Star at 3B. He just described a .260 BA with 30+ HRs and plus defense at 3B. That's basically Kemp's offense plus ~1 WAR for defense. A 4-5 win player in other words.

    I have never seen Riley described like that. Was it written by the same guy that did the most recent Lewis write up?

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    The report mentions his swing can be long at times due to fixable issues. I wonder if that was where the bat speed questions came from. Some of the talking heads saw him when his swing was particularly long, saw him struggle to catch up with fastballs, and declared his bat to be slow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by striker42 View Post
    The report mentions his swing can be long at times due to fixable issues. I wonder if that was where the bat speed questions came from. Some of the talking heads saw him when his swing was particularly long, saw him struggle to catch up with fastballs, and declared his bat to be slow.
    Bat speed and length of swing are different things, and many guys I see pretending to be scouts confuse the 2 all the time. Longenhagen readily admits that was one of his biggest weaknesses when he first started evaluating prospects. He says the bat speed for Riley is fine, so maybe it is a swing length issue that other evaluators we have been reading confused with poor bat speed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    That is the description of an All Star at 3B. He just described a .260 BA with 30+ HRs and plus defense at 3B. That's basically Kemp's offense plus ~1 WAR for defense. A 4-5 win player in other words.

    I have never seen Riley described like that. Was it written by the same guy that did the most recent Lewis write up?

    Well he described him a realistically a second division stater, so sounds like he has a lot of doubt into his ultimate development.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    Well he described him a realistically a second division stater, so sounds like he has a lot of doubt into his ultimate development.
    He described the tools of an all star, then called him a player much less than that. I would take his evaluations with a huge grain of salt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    Well he described him a realistically a second division stater, so sounds like he has a lot of doubt into his ultimate development.
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    Acuna's BABIP is stating to normalize, and as it drops so is his OPS. A 50 point drop in BABIP has led to a ~100 point drop in OPS, as expected.

    Also as expected, his K rate is falling and is down to 22.1% in AA.

    I look for him to settle in with a ~.350 BABIP, a K rate under 20%, and an OPS in the ~.850 range. Very impressive for a 19 year old in a very tough AA hitting environment with fringe CF defense (probably plus corner defense at the MLB level).

    He compares very well to Eloy (20 years old with a .900 OPS in A+ and less defensive skill) and Robles (20 year old with an .876 OPS in A+ and a better defensive profile). I think those 3 guys are the elite OF prospects in the game right now, with Meadows and Moniak in the tier just below those 3 guys.

    If I had to rank them I think I'd go Eloy, Acuna, then Robles. Eloy gets the nod due to the elite power potential and the fact that both he and Acuna will likely be corner OFers when all is said and done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    He described the tools of an all star, then called him a player much less than that. I would take his evaluations with a huge grain of salt.
    He was giving ceiling grades on the tools and then gave his realistic prediction. Not that hard to figure out.

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    Pache back in the lineup after getting hurt two nights ago.

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