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Thread: 6/10 Game 1 vs Mets...Sean Newcomb Day

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    Quote Originally Posted by auyushu View Post
    Pretty much entirely fastball/slider. Though he seemed to have two different breaking pitches, one more of a sharp breaking slider that was very good and got him quite a few strikeouts, and another that was more of an up and down curve that was slower. As Enscheff mentioned earlier in the thread, he had a couple weird pitches in the 80 mph range that could have been changeups I suppose, but they were way out of the zone and ugly pitches.

    He sat in the 93-94 range with the fastball, occasionally running up to 95/96 with decent movement. Breaking pitches were very good. If he can stay around the zone like he did today we will have a solid pitcher on our hands.
    Good stuff, thanks for the info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deester11 View Post
    And your smarter than the world shtick is old. What's your point?
    And your willing ignorance is equally old.

    My point was to evaluate Newk on a level deeper than "he pitched well". If that offends you, put me on ignore. It will be mutual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Will be interesting to see if the data shows 2 different breaking balls, or a curve that had inconsistent break.
    Yeah, this is the first time I've seen him pitch, so no clue if he has two different breaking pitches typically or if it's just inconsistency there. Deester (or anyone else that's watched him in the minors), can you tell us if he usually runs out two different styles of breaking pitches?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    And your willing ignorance is equally old.

    My point was to evaluate Newk on a level deeper than "he pitched well". If that offends you, put me on ignore. It will be mutual.
    To entertain you is ignorance for sure. You do have the uncanny ability to try to dispute positives. Good for you. Have at it.

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    To clarify the moves Snit has made:

    PH with Lane Adams as the go ahead run in the 7th for the pitcher. Adams now on the bench.

    PH with Kemp as the go ahead run for Santana in the 8th, and now the Braves have Kemp in LF in a 1 run game.

    Do we see a problem here lol? Here's a hint: A terrible defender is in LF in a high leverage situation while 2 superior defenders are used up and sitting on the bench.

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    At least Jackson is gone soon

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    Welp, so much for that.

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    Luke Jackson straight up sucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by auyushu View Post
    Yeah, this is the first time I've seen him pitch, so no clue if he has two different breaking pitches typically or if it's just inconsistency there. Deester (or anyone else that's watched him in the minors), can you tell us if he usually runs out two different styles of breaking pitches?
    In my opinion it's a variance of two curves. One which has a more traditional break when it's slowed down and one which is slurvy/slider to me if he throws it harder. Watching him today was almost identical to some of his gwinnett starts but to me, he was tighter when he threw it slower. My view of him in the minors.

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    I still don't see why we won't play Camargo at 3rd. Strange.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    To clarify the moves Snit has made:

    PH with Lane Adams as the go ahead run in the 7th for the pitcher. Adams now on the bench.

    PH with Kemp as the go ahead run for Santana in the 8th, and now the Braves have Kemp in LF in a 1 run game.

    Do we see a problem here lol? Here's a hint: A terrible defender is in LF in a high leverage situation while 2 superior defenders are used up and sitting on the bench.
    I can't stand Snit. My posi is out the window.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deester11 View Post
    In my opinion it's a variance of two curves. One which has a more traditional break when it's slowed down and one which is slurvy/slider to me if he throws it harder. Watching him today was almost identical to some of his gwinnett starts but to me, he was tighter when he threw it slower. My view of him in the minors.
    Thanks. That's what it looked like to me as well, and it really gives him three pitches in terms of the effects they have on the batters if that's the case. He was really doing a nice job keeping the hitters off balance with the difference in speed and break on the breaking stuff today.

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    Well that game got out of control quickly.

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    At least reed is done for the day

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    Quote Originally Posted by auyushu View Post
    Thanks. That's what it looked like to me as well, and it really gives him three pitches in terms of the effects they have on the batters if that's the case. He was really doing a nice job keeping the hitters off balance with the difference in speed and break on the breaking stuff today.
    Auyushu, He's also had a little variance in his delivery since coming over. The only issue I ever saw was that sometimes when he slowed the pitch up he left it in hittable spots. He's going to be good when he gains consistency. We won't get this every time out. But if he can be similar...he'll be a workhorse..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deester11 View Post
    A The only issue I ever saw was that sometimes when he slowed the pitch up he left it in hittable spots.
    Yeah, you could see him struggle at times today with control on the slow curve, but at least he was missing out of the zone when he did. Much like Folty, I'm sure he'll have his ups and downs, but there is a ton to like there for sure. Nice easy delivery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    To clarify the moves Snit has made:

    PH with Lane Adams as the go ahead run in the 7th for the pitcher. Adams now on the bench.

    PH with Kemp as the go ahead run for Santana in the 8th, and now the Braves have Kemp in LF in a 1 run game.

    Do we see a problem here lol? Here's a hint: A terrible defender is in LF in a high leverage situation while 2 superior defenders are used up and sitting on the bench.
    Give the Kemp is terrible stuff a rest, maybe to you by some number he is, but newsflash he is a big leaguer and has been for some time. But he is going to be here at least until Acuna is ready. Might as well get used to the idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garmel View Post
    I still don't see why we won't play Camargo at 3rd. Strange.
    Pretty clear to see the Braves want Ruiz there until he wins the job or fails.

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    I know we need to give guys some rest, but I would've had the regular lineup in there to try and get Newcomb a win instead of splitting the rest between both games. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm expecting Wisler to get hammered in game 2, so I would've preferred if we'd gone all out to try and get the split

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