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    MONDAY MINORS FINAL 6/12 ... It's Something's Got To Give Day

    MONDAY SCOREBOARD

    CLASS AAA


    Gwinnett, idle

    CLASS AA


    Pensacola 8, Mississippi 1

    LP: Fried (2-9) 6 IP, 3 H, 5 R, 4 BB, 5 K
    Sobotka 1 IP, 1 H, 2 ER, 1 BB, 0 K
    Reynolds 1 IP, 2 H, 1 ER, 1 BB, 1 K

    Valenzuela 2-4, 3B, R
    Demeritte 1-4, RBI

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    ADVANCED CLASS A

    Florida 2, Daytona 1
    2 in 9th, walkoff win

    SP: Toussaint 7 IP, 5 H, 1 ER, 3 BB, 5 K, HR
    Minter 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 3 K (REHAB!!!)
    WP: Watts (1-0) 1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 1 K

    Riley 1-3
    Neslony 1-4, RBI
    Salazar 1-3, 2B, R

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    CLASS A


    Asheville 7, Rome 0

    LP: Walker (2-6) 4.2 IP, 9 H, 6 ER, 1 BB, 4 K
    Kennedy 1.1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 2 K
    Caicedo 1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 1 K
    Burrows 1 IP, 2 H, 1 R, 1 BB, 1 K

    Mooney 2-4
    Pache 2-4
    Herbert 3-4
    Ellison 0-4, 4 K

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    SHORT-SEASON

    DSL Braves 2, DSL Royals 1 (10)

    SP: Hodgson 3 IP, 2 H, 1 ER, 2 BB, 1 K
    Montilla 3 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 3 K
    Vasquez 2 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 2 K
    WP: Santos (1-0) 2 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 2 K

    Y. Lopez 2-4, R
    Blanco 1-3, RBI
    Lora 2-4

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    Fried was solid, not spectacular last start and Touki has shown signs of coming out of it. Big day.

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    I don't love that Allard's SO/s have dropped to 6.82/9 and his walks have gone up to 3.41/9.

    That's a not a great ratio; granted 19 years old in AA.... certainly pitching above his weight class and he's limited damage, but he's been kind of the anti-Touki in out-pitching his peripherals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Preacher View Post
    I don't love that Allard's SO/s have dropped to 6.82/9 and his walks have gone up to 3.41/9.

    That's a not a great ratio; granted 19 years old in AA.... certainly pitching above his weight class and he's limited damage, but he's been kind of the anti-Touki in out-pitching his peripherals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Preacher View Post
    I don't love that Allard's SO/s have dropped to 6.82/9 and his walks have gone up to 3.41/9.

    That's a not a great ratio; granted 19 years old in AA.... certainly pitching above his weight class and he's limited damage, but he's been kind of the anti-Touki in out-pitching his peripherals.

    Anderson and Allard have been my most disappointing pitchers thus far this year. Both still doing well, but not happy about the deeper numbers. Fried is in there too, but I feel he is righting the ship and expect a major second half surge.

    Touki is an enigma.. so I am never high or low on him until he hits AA.. until then, he is one I love but expect to not make it..

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    Anderson and Allard have been my most disappointing pitchers thus far this year. Both still doing well, but not happy about the deeper numbers. Fried is in there too, but I feel he is righting the ship and expect a major second half surge.

    Touki is an enigma.. so I am never high or low on him until he hits AA.. until then, he is one I love but expect to not make it..
    I can see Allard but Anderson's strikeouts are up, his FIP is actually better and his BABIP is rather high at the moment. Biggest disappointment for him is the increase in walks, but that isn't something that you'd necessarily think would be a permanent issue based on track record.

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    Yeah Allard has been disappointing lately. Anderson has looked filthy though and his peripherals are better than the surface stuff.

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    I watched Allard pitch last Tuesday and I don't think he was that bad. The 1st inning of that game he walked several but is was raining and I don't think he had a feel for breaking/off speed pitch because of the rain. He had bunches of pitches fouled off which inflated his pitch count.
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    Has anyone seen Allard recently? Curious what his stuff has looked like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    I can see Allard but Anderson's strikeouts are up, his FIP is actually better and his BABIP is rather high at the moment. Biggest disappointment for him is the increase in walks, but that isn't something that you'd necessarily think would be a permanent issue based on track record.
    I think with Anderson, it has been more recent. If you look at trends, his K's have gone down with Walks going up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    I think with Anderson, it has been more recent. If you look at trends, his K's have gone down with Walks going up.
    He's had three rough outings in his last five, but has struck out 32 in 25.1 IP. The other two starts were clean frames so he's been inconsistent lately.

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    I cant fathom anyone being disappointing in Allard and Anderson. Allard is 19 at AA after skipping a level and is more than holding his own. Anderson has a good K rate at Rome. Rome is where we focus the most on development so I think his struggles are related to trying to improve his weaknesses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    He's had three rough outings in his last five, but has struck out 32 in 25.1 IP. The other two starts were clean frames so he's been inconsistent lately.
    going off memory here. I watched him a lot early on. only stat scouted him of late. Seems he has struggled lately.. maybe my remembering needs a tune up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunrevenge View Post
    I cant fathom anyone being disappointing in Allard and Anderson. Allard is 19 at AA after skipping a level and is more than holding his own. Anderson has a good K rate at Rome. Rome is where we focus the most on development so I think his struggles are related to trying to improve his weaknesses.
    I am not disappointed in either. just they haven't lived up to my homer expectations. still very high on my list of studs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunrevenge View Post
    I cant fathom anyone being disappointing in Allard and Anderson. Allard is 19 at AA after skipping a level and is more than holding his own. Anderson has a good K rate at Rome. Rome is where we focus the most on development so I think his struggles are related to trying to improve his weaknesses.
    I'm not dissaponted in Allard, but I also think it's worthwhile pointing out his underlying numbers.

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    as a 19 year old.... in AA
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    I'm fine with Allard and Anderson.

    Fried has been a massive disappointment, and will fall off the lists he was still on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    I'm fine with Allard and Anderson.

    Fried has been a massive disappointment, and will fall off the lists he was still on.
    I wouldn't call Fried a massive disappointment...his peripherals are decent
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    I'm fine with Allard and Anderson.

    Fried has been a massive disappointment, and will fall off the lists he was still on.
    by numbers, Fried advanced a level and has slightly fewer Ks (9.79 to 9.1), actually slightly fewer walks (4.11 to 4.04), and his FIP has gone from 3.97 to 4.22. He's been more hittable by a little bit.

    Now his numbers last year also included a slow start. My guess is he actually may have started slower last season? Not sure about that though. I'm not overly concerned about Fried unless he doesn't pitch better as the season wears on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    by numbers, Fried advanced a level and has slightly fewer Ks (9.79 to 9.1), actually slightly fewer walks (4.11 to 4.04), and his FIP has gone from 3.97 to 4.22. He's been more hittable by a little bit.

    Now his numbers last year also included a slow start. My guess is he actually may have started slower last season? Not sure about that though. I'm not overly concerned about Fried unless he doesn't pitch better as the season wears on.
    I was expecting a bigger improvement based on the fact he was further removed from TJ.

    At best, you can say he is the same as last year, but I don't think you can make that argument to be honest.

    He's 23. He needs to get it going, IMO

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