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    Quote Originally Posted by Russ2dollas View Post
    I don't think it will actually be prado. Someone like prado.

    Maybe even someone like Phillips.
    Yangervis Solarte is another similar player. Currently on the DL. When the Braves decide to pull the plug on the Freeman at third experiment they are going to look for some "political cover." And trading for someone like Prado or Solarte will provide that cover.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Yangervis Solarte is another similar player. Currently on the DL. When the Braves decide to pull the plug on the Freeman at third experiment they are going to look for some "political cover." And trading for someone like Prado or Solarte will provide that cover.
    I'd rather have Solarte than Prado

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Yangervis Solarte is another similar player. Currently on the DL. When the Braves decide to pull the plug on the Freeman at third experiment they are going to look for some "political cover." And trading for someone like Prado or Solarte will provide that cover.
    I don't think they will need cover.. This was FF idea.. they can pull the plug and just say they respect FF and wanted to give his idea a shot, but also feel best for the team if they went option B route.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Yangervis Solarte is another similar player. Currently on the DL. When the Braves decide to pull the plug on the Freeman at third experiment they are going to look for some "political cover." And trading for someone like Prado or Solarte will provide that cover.
    I also think there will be some politics in there. When we trade Adams, the spin will be we had the chance to acquire an ex Brave who is a great team leader and we couldn't pass it up. We also have 3b covered, as well as other positions going forward that gives us roster flexibility.

    Combine that with the return we get from Adams and that's an easy sell.

    On a side note having Prado, SRod, and Camargo on the same 25 man roster would allow for an 8 man bullpen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chico View Post
    I also think there will be some politics in there. When we trade Adams, the spin will be we had the chance to acquire an ex Brave who is a great team leader and we couldn't pass it up. We also have 3b covered, as well as other positions going forward that gives us roster flexibility.

    Combine that with the return we get from Adams and that's an easy sell.

    On a side note having Prado, SRod, and Camargo on the same 25 man roster would allow for an 8 man bullpen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
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    9 pan men. These sound like an Asian food dish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NinersSBChamps View Post
    9 pan men. These sound like an Asian food dish.
    9 pan men. 2 dollah
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    9 pan men. 2 dollah
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    The good thing about that tough July schedule....it will be a great audition for our guys that we hope to move.

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    Was just looking at his peripherals... Sonny Gray is more attractive than I previously thought, especially under control through 2020. Based on his injury history though, I don't think I'd be willing to give up what it would take to get him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zbhargrove View Post
    Was just looking at his peripherals... Sonny Gray is more attractive than I previously thought, especially under control through 2020. Based on his injury history though, I don't think I'd be willing to give up what it would take to get him.
    The A's aren't a great trade matchup for Atlanta though since they will likely be looking for young, major league ready players. Which is exactly what the Braves should not be trading.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    The A's aren't a great trade matchup for Atlanta though since they will likely be looking for young, major league ready players. Which is exactly what the Braves should not be trading.
    Yeah that's my main problem. I can't find a package of our close young guys that I'd be comfortable trading for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zbhargrove View Post
    Yeah that's my main problem. I can't find a package of our close young guys that I'd be comfortable trading for him.
    At one point, I would have been ok with moving Albies but the power surge has me coming back off that. It's one thing if you are trading Peraza+ but now I think you have to see if he is Altuve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    At one point, I would have been ok with moving Albies but the power surge has me coming back off that. It's one thing if you are trading Peraza+ but now I think you have to see if he is Altuve.
    Yeah with the way Albies has been swinging, especially with the improvement on the left side... I don't want him going anywhere.

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    The offseason plan should be obviously simple:

    1. Exercise Dickey's option or sign another back end guy for $10M-$15M.

    2. Fix 3b using the least amount of prospect capital possible.

    3. Enjoy the first year of the Braves next competitive window, and augment the roster at the deadline if they are in position to earn a playoff spot.

    Any other actions completely fly in the face of the whole point of the rebuild.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    The offseason plan should be obviously simple:

    1. Exercise Dickey's option or sign another back end guy for $10M-$15M.

    2. Fix 3b using the least amount of prospect capital possible.

    3. Enjoy the first year of the Braves next competitive window, and augment the roster at the deadline if they are in position to earn a playoff spot.

    Any other actions completely fly in the face of the whole point of the rebuild.
    Agreed.

    That's after the shopping of Jim Johnson, Brandon Phillips, Matt Adams, Matt Kemp, and Jaime Garcia at the deadline.

    And I would include beginning extension talks with Flowers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smootness View Post
    Agreed.

    That's after the shopping of Jim Johnson, Brandon Phillips, Matt Adams, Matt Kemp, and Jaime Garcia at the deadline.

    And I would include beginning extension talks with Flowers.
    If the Braves get their playoff odds to ~10% by the deadline they should not sell at all. Nothing they have to sell will return anything as valuable as a hint of playoff contention.

    Garcia and Phillips should be traded no matter what if the Braves aren't within shouting distance the week of the deadline. Probably Suzuki too.

    JJ, Viz and Adams should only be traded if they can be part of a package that brings back a legit 45 FV or better prospect. If not they should be kept to help in 2018.

    I should have added a Flowers extension to my off season plan. I would actually look to use the leverage of picking up his option now to secure a couple more years of control.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    If the Braves get their playoff odds to ~10% by the deadline they should not sell at all.

    Garcia and Phillips should be traded no matter what if the Braves aren't within shouting distance the week of the deadline. Probably Suzuki too.

    JJ, Viz and Adams should only be traded if they can be part of a package that brings back a legit 45 FV or better prospect. If not they should be kept to help in 2018.

    I should have added a Flowers extension to my off season plan. I would actually look to use the leverage of picking up his option now to secure a couple more years of control.
    I agree with you and Smoot on Flowers. when you have so much young pitching coming up, an catcher like Flowers is vital. If he could throw, he would be an all star right now. But he still should come cheap and provide tremendous value to what the overall plan is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    The offseason plan should be obviously simple:

    1. Exercise Dickey's option or sign another back end guy for $10M-$15M.

    2. Fix 3b using the least amount of prospect capital possible.

    3. Enjoy the first year of the Braves next competitive window, and augment the roster at the deadline if they are in position to earn a playoff spot.

    Any other actions completely fly in the face of the whole point of the rebuild.
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    If the Blue Jays are actually selling, I'd definitely be interested in looking at Marcus Stroman.

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