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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    The dodgers need Phillips.
    The Brewers need Dickey.

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    Forget what other teams need. What do the braves need?

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    I was joking because he dominated them. Prolly should have said Giants though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zbhargrove View Post
    The Yanks are the one team who could get desperate enough for a decent package of Adams, Garcia, Wisler,
    and a BP arm. Torres and Frazier here we come. Yes that's sarcasm Enscheff.
    I'd like to see the Braves target Adujar for Adams plus another piece or two like Garcia and a BP arm. They are the team I identified a couple weeks ago as the best match with the Braves for multiple pieces. Andujar may have made himself too valuable with his resent golf play, but he would fit nicely at 3b.

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    Braves don't have a single player on MLBTR's Top 50 trade pieces.

    https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/06/top-50-trade-deadline-candidates-for-2017.html?fv-home=true&post-id=95409

    If they can't package several pieces together for a good return, I would say just keep the band together and make a run for .500. I'd rather watch this team play for .500 than sell the pieces with little value and watch them win 70-75 games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    The dodgers need Phillips.
    Forsythe/Kike/Utley is more than fine at 2B.

    They need another outfielder though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Braves don't have a single player on MLBTR's Top 50 trade pieces.

    https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/...&post-id=95409

    If they can't package several pieces together for a good return, I would say just keep the band together and make a run for .500.
    If you read the bottom it tells you why, it says the Braves may think they have an outside shot of a wildcard spot and will keep their players for a possible run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    I'd like to see the Braves target Adujar for Adams plus another piece or two like Garcia and a BP arm. They are the team I identified a couple weeks ago as the best match with the Braves for multiple pieces. Andujar may have made himself too valuable with his resent golf play, but he would fit nicely at 3b.
    I like Andujar a lot... I'm just not sold on him yet... lets add Garcia and add another sig piece plus a BP arm

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    Quote Originally Posted by zbhargrove View Post
    I like Andujar a lot... I'm just not sold on him yet... lets add Garcia and add another sig piece plus a BP arm
    Fowler might be more attainable and as valuable.

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    I think the Braves should target Colton Welker from the Rockies. They need BP help the Braves have a few arms in the pen to match up. I say Vizcaino for Welker straight up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay212033 View Post
    I think the Braves should target Colton Welker from the Rockies. They need BP help the Braves have a few arms in the pen to match up. I say Vizcaino for Welker straight up.
    A FV 40 gucthat likely has to move to 1B is exactly the kind of prospect I want the Braves to avoid. If that's all they can get I'd rather see Viz pitch for a much better 2018 Braves team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    . If that's all they can get I'd rather see Viz pitch for a much better 2018 Braves team.
    Posi-braves, assemble!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Braves don't have a single player on MLBTR's Top 50 trade pieces.

    https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/...&post-id=95409

    If they can't package several pieces together for a good return, I would say just keep the band together and make a run for .500. I'd rather watch this team play for .500 than sell the pieces with little value and watch them win 70-75 games.

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    Don't fall for the mirage. This isn't a .500 team.

    I said before the month began that June was a horrible schedule where the braves would play all the worst teams in baseball, most at home. Even the Brewers were due for a collapse.

    The Braves should get best available return for any player who doesn't have a serious future role.

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    I'd agree with enscheff that we don't need dudes. We have an incredibly deep system. We don't need fillers. We need to see if we can get impact guys and if not hold.

    Phillips keeping albies service time down is valuable
    Markakis keeping Acuna service time down is valuable

    Adams is cheap nxt year and therefore should not be given away. Same on viz and just

    But if someone gets desperate for a pen arm or a bat we should jump on it

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Forget what other teams need. What do the braves need?
    I'll throw out a name. Samardzija.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Russ2dollas View Post
    I'd agree with enscheff that we don't need dudes. We have an incredibly deep system. We don't need fillers. We need to see if we can get impact guys and if not hold.

    Phillips keeping albies service time down is valuable
    Markakis keeping Acuna service time down is valuable

    Adams is cheap nxt year and therefore should not be given away. Same on viz and just

    But if someone gets desperate for a pen arm or a bat we should jump on it
    This is where I disagree, no farm system is ever deep enough where you can't use more pieces.

    I have no issues trading superfluous vets for FV 40 type guys if they have some promise or really young. A guy like Derian Cruz who struggled initially or a guy like Alex Jackson who's fallen out of favor. Hell guys like Whalen/Gant are fine too if you can't get something better - we used those pieces to get other things.

    I'm not giving guys away, but I'm also not demanding great pieces.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Preacher View Post
    This is where I disagree, no farm system is ever deep enough where you can't use more pieces.

    I have no issues trading superfluous vets for FV 40 type guys if they have some promise or really young. A guy like Derian Cruz who struggled initially or a guy like Alex Jackson who's fallen out of favor. Hell guys like Whalen/Gant are fine too if you can't get something better - we used those pieces to get other things.

    I'm not giving guys away, but I'm also not demanding great pieces.
    Agreed. Why hold onto guys like Phillips or Markakis if you can get some sort of value for them in a trade? It's not Phillips keeping Albies down, it's Albies' development. If you trade Phillips you can put Jace at 2B. Nobody is ever valuable simply as a means of being a road block for a prospect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mqt View Post
    Agreed. Why hold onto guys like Phillips or Markakis if you can get some sort of value for them in a trade? It's not Phillips keeping Albies down, it's Albies' development. If you trade Phillips you can put Jace at 2B. Nobody is ever valuable simply as a means of being a road block for a prospect.
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    1. You can't get a rep for just dumping guys. Call their bluff that you have a standard.
    2. Those guys have value. If Phillips was playing like jace albies would prob be up. For a million bucks we get another year of control on albies plus decent MLB production. I don't think the are dumb enough to promote acuna but markakis could do that for us next year.

    Yes every piece has value. Maybe they hit line drury. Maybe someone accepts a poo poo platter. But I'm not giving guys away

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russ2dollas View Post
    Bc
    1. You can't get a rep for just dumping guys. Call their bluff that you have a standard.
    2. Those guys have value. If Phillips was playing like jace albies would prob be up. For a million bucks we get another year of control on albies plus decent MLB production. I don't think the are dumb enough to promote acuna but markakis could do that for us next year.

    Yes every piece has value. Maybe they hit line drury. Maybe someone accepts a poo poo platter. But I'm not giving guys away
    Accepting pieces like Whalen and Gant isn't ideal, but it's also not giving guys away. Those pieces had actual value for us and can be used in trades down the line.

    There's certain players that just don't have a future with us and this isn't a playoff team this year, not dealing them would be foolish. Get the best you can get, baseball=monopoly ..... you can never have too many assets.

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