Braves will be hard pressed to find a better bet to eat 200 innnings for $8M next year. Whether or not that's needed is certainly open for debate.
It's fine that folks don't understand it. There is nothing wrong with not caring about the advanced stats behind the scenes. Just wanting to enjoy the game in the field is perfectly fine.
What's sad is that folks insist on arguing a factually incorrect position based upon complete and utter ignorance.
All the expiring contracts should definitely go. The coda to that is that the FO needs to be disciplined enough not to waste service time of the young guys.
If you trade J Garcia, you could replace him with Medlen. If you trade Teheran, you could replace him with Sims. If you trade Dickey you could replace him with Wisler or Blair. There are pitchers who could come up to "see what we've got" and it not be a disaster.
And, I honestly don't see the Braves at 80-85 wins next year unless they bring in a real 3B and maybe another starter or two. Freeman and Inciarte are playing about as well as they can right now. To expect much more from them next year is asking too much IMO. And, guys having decent to good years (or even bad years) like Flowers, Kemp, Markakis, etc. are unlikely to repeat performance next year. In other words, catching and OF will likely be worse in 2018, not better. The rotation will be full of young guys who will be finding their way.
Johnson is on the books through 2018.
Jim Johnson rhp
2 years/$10M (2017-18)
2 years/$10M (2017-18)
signed extension with Atlanta 10/12/16
$1M signing bonus
17:$4.5M, 18:$4.5M
performance bonuses: $0.25M each for 30, 35, 40, 45, 50, 55, 60 games finished
1 year/$2.5M (2016)
signed by Atlanta as a free agent 11/30/15
performance bonuses: $70,000 each for 40, 45, 50, 55, 60 games. $75,000 each for 25, 30, 35, 40 games finished. $0.15M each for 45, 50, 55, 60 GF
1 year/$1.6M (2015)
signed by Atlanta as a free agent 12/3/14
may earn additional $0.9M in performance bonuses
acquired by LA Dodgers in trade from Atlanta 7/30/15 with Dodgers responsible for $577,049 remaining in 2015 salary
DFA and refused assignment, electing free agency 10/14/15
1 year/$10M (2014)
signed by Oakland 1/16/14 (avoided arbitration)
DFA by Oakland 7/24/14, released 8/1/14
signed by Detroit as a free agent 8/5/14 (minor-league contract)
contract selected by Detroit 8/17/14
1 year/$6.5M (2013)
re-signed by Baltimore 2/8/13 (avoided arbitration, $7.1M-$5.7M)
performance bonuses: $25,000 each for 50, 55 games finished
acquired by Oakland in trade from Baltimore 12/2/13
1 year/$2.625M (2012)
re-signed by Baltimore 1/16/12 (avoided arbitration)
1 year/$0.975M (2011)
re-signed by Baltimore 1/18/11 (avoided arbitration)
1 year/$0.44M (2010)
re-signed by Baltimore 3/9/10
1 year/$0.42M (2009)
re-signed by Baltimore 3/8/09
1 year/$0.39M (2008)
re-signed by Baltimore 1/22/08 (split contract, $62,500 in minors)
award bonuses: $25,000 each for All Star, Rookie of Year
1 year (2007)
re-signed by Baltimore 2/07
1 year (2006)
contract purchased by Baltimore 11/05
drafted by Baltimore 2001 (5-143) (Union-Endicott HS, NY)
agent: Moye Sports
ML service: 8.161
Has there EVER been a statement and question a certain someone should absolutely never have made and asked publicly more than...
Kinda pathetic to see yourself as a message board knight in shining armor. How impotent does someone have to be in real life to resort to playing hero on a message board?
Joel Sherman wrote a column saying the Tigers should put Michael Fulmer on the block now since they're heading towards a rebuild. If we are intent on trading for a controlled starter in the next year or so, I wouldn't be opposed to him being the guy. He's under control through 2022.
clvclv (07-10-2017)
How about adams to the Yankees for A 11-15 ranked fv 50 guy and taking chase Hendley's contract?
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I honestly worry about that but I'm hoping we won't see 19 yo on outlet bad team
I'm hoping comargo, srod , medlen, sims and Micah Johnson steal the time from Adams Phillips Garcia and maybe a corner in my dreams.
I think albies is coming up at roster expansion and that won't impact anything.
I think deciding on sims as a starter or rp is a witletghole use of ten starts
Adams to the Mariners for 3B Joe Rizzo.
"I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."
"I am your retribution."
I kinda like the thought of Fulmer to be honest - he, Julio, and Folty set up your 1-3 for a good while. Hold Newcomb and Wright and that's a really strong staff for the foreseeable future.
The problem is that they'll need the moon for him given what it sounds like their asking price for Verlander is. I wouldn't go near Miggy's contract personally, but wonder if Coppy would be interested in taking on J-Up's deal to get Fulmer. While it's really off-the-wall, could we get Kemp into the deal to give them some protection for Cabrera when Martinez (J. D.) is gone? They'd rid themselves of $52.6 million of Upton's money and still have a middle of the order consisting of Miggy, V-Mart, Kemp - with V-Mart coming off the books when the big free-agent class drops and Kemp could DH and come off the following year.
Certainly not likely, but fun to think about. Say Kemp, Allard, Anderson, Fried, and Peterson (Dustin) for Fulmer and J-Up.
All of a sudden you'd have just about all the pieces (and bridges to future pieces) in place with Fulmer, Ender, and Swanson controlled through 2022, Freeman, Upton, and Folty through 2021, and Julio through 2020. Albies takes over for Dat Dude next season with Newcomb replacing Garcia in the rotation. Pick up Dickey's option to fill out the rotation - one of Wright or Soroka steps in by 2019 (if not before), and Acuna replaces Markakis along the same timeline.
If you could somehow pull that off, then I'd have to seriously consider adding Moustakas this winter - that club would be a legitimate contender IMO.
Real pie-in-the-sky stuff, but fun to dream on.
Has there EVER been a statement and question a certain someone should absolutely never have made and asked publicly more than...
Kinda pathetic to see yourself as a message board knight in shining armor. How impotent does someone have to be in real life to resort to playing hero on a message board?
Fulmer would cost an absurd amount.