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    Heyman's latest Braves Notes:

    The Braves were linked to Jose Quintana, but that seemed to be overblown the whole time. Chris Sale was the White Sox pitcher they liked. The ChiSox asked the Braves for Ronald Acuna, and the Braves said no. So it appears they were never close on Quintana.

    Acuna, 19, is a five-tool outfielder with one scout calls “stupid power.” He’s being promoted to Triple-A, as reported by David O’Brien of the Atlanta-Journal Constitution.

    There’s some trade interest in Jaime Garcia.

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    It's been 24 hours. Should I be happy yet

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    Yes cause Acuna has a blast in AAA! 😆

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    Eaton's contract:

    2017 4m
    2018 6m
    2019 8.4m
    2020 9.5 Option
    2021 10.5 Option

    Eaton was a 5.2 WAR in 2014 and 6.2 WAR in 2016. (3.9 in 2015)

    By contrast:

    Heyward 1 year/7.8m 6.2 WAR the preceding season -- signed for 8/184
    Upton 1 year/14.5m 3.2 WAR the preceding season -- signed for 6/132.5

    If you believe in WAR Eaton was a better player than Upton the year before he was acquired and was 9 million dollars cheaper with years of control remaining.

    Heyward was a slightly better player by WAR (correction: actually they had equal value according to WAR), but more expensive and had already made it plain he was going to hold out for a ginormous contract.

    Not hard to see why a team would give up more for Eaton.
    Fair enough. I concede to you guys on this one. Really underestimated how good Eaton has been.

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    Bowman: "Astros general manager Jeff Luhnow knows Garcia from the time they spent together with the Cardinals. The veteran left-hander has struggled lately, but his stuff seemed to be rounding back into form through the first four innings of last week's start against Houston. If Garcia has a couple good starts out of the break, the Braves might be able to pry outfielder Derek Fisher from the Astros. Another potential target could be catcher Jake Rogers."

    I can't imagine any possible way they give up Fisher in a deal for Garcia. That would be insane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CJ9 View Post
    Bowman: "Astros general manager Jeff Luhnow knows Garcia from the time they spent together with the Cardinals. The veteran left-hander has struggled lately, but his stuff seemed to be rounding back into form through the first four innings of last week's start against Houston. If Garcia has a couple good starts out of the break, the Braves might be able to pry outfielder Derek Fisher from the Astros. Another potential target could be catcher Jake Rogers."

    I can't imagine any possible way they give up Fisher in a deal for Garcia. That would be insane.
    I don't want Fisher for Teheran but freaking sign me up for getting him for Garcia. Let's throw a couple pen arms in and add Rogers to the package lol

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    A Fisher, Inciarte, Acuna OF with Swanson/Albies up the middle would be insane defense wise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CJ9 View Post
    Bowman: "Astros general manager Jeff Luhnow knows Garcia from the time they spent together with the Cardinals. The veteran left-hander has struggled lately, but his stuff seemed to be rounding back into form through the first four innings of last week's start against Houston. If Garcia has a couple good starts out of the break, the Braves might be able to pry outfielder Derek Fisher from the Astros. Another potential target could be catcher Jake Rogers."

    I can't imagine any possible way they give up Fisher in a deal for Garcia. That would be insane.
    Bowman needs to stick to something he knows about like Krispy Kreme donuts.

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    You know, before last year, Gray was actually very durable... two straight 200 inning seasons. Gotta think his struggles last year were injury related. While his surface numbers aren't amazing this year, his peripherals are very good and he's been good lately. I think maybe the rust is off and he's finally healthy again. The question is this, was last year just an injury plagued campaign or is it the start of something concerning? I say given his peripherals and his increased velocity that it's behind him. If we can get him for Anderson and Pache, I'd do it.

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    Coppy could really hurt or help the rebuild at the deadline. I don't think we stand pat. I think we make some big moves. The Only question will be if they are smart or hasty moves.

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    Also Morosi reported that we are telling teams Teheran is off limits.

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    So is Albies gonna debut tomorrow? If so, where's the Phillips to some team talk?

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    So is Albies gonna debut tomorrow? If so, where's the Phillips to some team talk?
    Doubtful... sounds like him and Sims just arrived back late tonight from the All-Star game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CJ9 View Post
    Also Morosi reported that we are telling teams Teheran is off limits.
    Yeaaaa. Don't care if I'm the only one. Blow us away or keep him.

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    I dont eamt to give away Teheran either. If nothing else he is atleast durable. I think he will turn things around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CJ9 View Post
    Bowman: "Astros general manager Jeff Luhnow knows Garcia from the time they spent together with the Cardinals. The veteran left-hander has struggled lately, but his stuff seemed to be rounding back into form through the first four innings of last week's start against Houston. If Garcia has a couple good starts out of the break, the Braves might be able to pry outfielder Derek Fisher from the Astros. Another potential target could be catcher Jake Rogers."

    I can't imagine any possible way they give up Fisher in a deal for Garcia. That would be insane.
    Yeah. That's crazy, but Jake Rogers is a guy who could be a riser. He's a glove first catcher with an eye and power. He'll always have value

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Same mistake they made with Swanson, and they are giving up his age 27 season for no apparent reason.

    Will be fun to watch him in Atlanta though!
    Good call. He was late arriving in Charlotte.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Gray has seemed a better target for us to me than Quintana. I think we might be able to get him for Anderson. Or Wentz plus Touki. We'd be paying something close to the contender's premium in both cases.
    I do either of those in a heart beat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chico View Post
    Yeah. That's crazy, but Jake Rogers is a guy who could be a riser. He's a glove first catcher with an eye and power. He'll always have value
    If we could get Rogers for Garcia it would be a steal, but I don't see it happening.

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    I'm not that picky on the potential return for Garcia. I don't see any way we could get someone like Derek Fisher for him.

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