What about Kemp + Harrington for Verlander and his salary for the rest of the year? It's a big deal but it's a productive pitcher. I'd rather have Verlander's big deal + Peterson/SRod in LF than Kemp + rental vet. The big problem is that extra 20 million in 2020 but w/o that there is no way the Tigers do the deal. I'm not sure the'd do it anyway. I think they would prefer to trade him for a legit dude and just buy the prospect by sending X million.
I think an interesting deal could be worked out for Verlander. I'd ask the Tigers to pick up 25M of his contract. 10M each in 2018 and 2019. 5 M in 2020 (which would cover the buyout of his option if came to that). In exchange, I'd offer two of Touki, Pache and Wentz.
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O'Neill could be Grichuk who can't play CF. Better minor league stats than Grichuk, but somewhat similar BB/K ratio. No question he's a good hitting prospect. Cardinals always seem to collect guys like this.
I can't imagine any scenario where the Tigers look to unload salary by trading Verlander, and do so by taking Kemp in return.
Kemp isn't going anywhere. The Braves will be shackled by that contract to the bitter end.
Watching the Cubs bullpen totally implode—any chance they might want to pursue the Johnson+Vizcaíno package?
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Bullpens are funny things. Swap out the rental Chapman for Wade Davis and other than that, the Cubs' pen is pretty much the same as last season. I can see them looking for an upgrade. Doubt they would want Johnson, but I wouldn't be surprised if they inquired about Vizcaino.
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Really really want Archer and don't want to trade Julio. First Julio is a quality #2. Second he has a history of having a good to great season following a bad one. Third, I don't believe Folty is ready to be a #2 yet, and who knows with Newcomb. Finally, this is about as low as we've seen his value go, not happy with getting cents on the dollar for a #2 starter.
So anyone's thoughts on that.
Second, if people could enlighten me about a few possible packages for Archer.
Much obliged.
I think we'll go get another pitcher for the 2018 rotation to go along with Teheran, Folty, Dickey and Nook.
Archer would likely cost two of Acuna, Albies, Soroka, Allard and Wright. My guess is that we won't go there and will settle for a lesser starter. A 2-3 win type guy.
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If were not going to trade for an ace what's the point. But should ask any ideas on who the lesser pitchers might be.
Would pay Albies and one of those pitchers. It would hurt but Archer is an ace who's contract is better then Julios.
Trading for an ace just costs too much. I think the plan is to grow one and I'm hoping they stick to that philosophy. There are a couple guys I could see us trading for this off-season. Verlander. Ian Kennedy. The idea is to find guys who won't cost much in terms of prospects because of their contracts. I would stay away from the free agent market unless we can get someone on a deal that runs less than four years.
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