Official 2017 Trade Deadilne Thread

[Oklahomabrave]

Wanted to start collecting rumors/discussion here as the deadline approaches:

Heyman article- https://www.fanragsports.com/mlb/ins...rise-quintana/

Notes that Garcia should bring back something "Significant" and Phillips has drawn interest.

Oriole's beat guy tweets that Oriole's have checked in on Dickey
https://twitter.com/camdendepot/stat...31396981710848

I'll try and update this daily.

[UNCBlue012]

Well, this is terrific news! One last trade deadline giveaway before relevance hits!

[clvclv]

Wish he would expand on the interest in Dat Dude - there can't be that many contenders in need of a 2B. Wonder if it's someone we're not considering as a "serious" contender?

[Southcack77]

Wish he would expand on the interest in Dat Dude - there can't be that many contenders in need of a 2B. Wonder if it's someone we're not considering as a "serious" contender?

For a lot of teams, a playoff chase is pretty good for the bottom line and the overall goodwill of the org.

For other teams, the opportunity for front office to make a great first impression or on the other end to turn down the heat is a driving need.

Not all front offices are well run and the landscape is littered with unwise deals made by GMs.

[thewupk]

Phillips should get us a FV 40 player and possibly a 45 guy if a team has a really pressing need and pays the contenders premium.

[Enscheff]

Phillips should get us a FV 40 player and possibly a 45 guy if a team has a really pressing need and pays the contenders premium.

Same with Garcia. Same with Viz. Almost the same with Adams.

The real score will be if Coppy can package 2-3 of those guys together and get a FV 50 guy from a contender whose needs line up perfectly.

[Southcack77]

Phillips should get us a FV 40 player and possibly a 45 guy if a team has a really pressing need and pays the contenders premium.

thanks for clearing that up.

[Preacher]

List of potential players that might be traded:

Better than Average Chance at getting flipped;
Jaime Garcia - Our best trade chip, he's strung together several good starts now. The Braves could also open up a spot in the rotation by dealing Garcia.
Jason Motte - He's pitched reasonably well, he's a veteran with postseason experience; as long as he doesn't fall off a cliff, he's going to be dealt IMO.
Bradon Phillips - Hitting really well, good clubhouse guy, one-year deal - perfect trade candidate; even if its just to a team that wants another professional hitter off the bench, we should be able to move Phillips.

Coin Flip;
Jim Johnson - Could definitely see him being flipped, the SOs are at 9.7 K/9, but the Braves won't give him away either and they have him under contract next season.
Viz - I think the Braves would like to 'sell high' here with his injury history and PED instance, but for those same reasons another team likely won't overpay.
Adams - I'm of the belief the Braves should move him, but I have a feeling Coppy wants to keep him as insurance for Freddie and as bench bat next year. He's hit well since he's been here.

Doubtful
Kemp/Markakis - Don't see much value to outside teams here with the money owed, defensive issues and in Markakis' case the lack of power.
Teheran - His value has taken a big hit, so whats the point? Better off keeping him now.
Dickey/Colon - Little to no value here. Maybe you can get something for Dickey.

[Preacher]

Fangraphs has a 50FV on TD, and he was bought with Alvarez/Harrell..... not sure why some people are so sure that Garcia can only nab a 40/45 FV type guy.

[nsacpi]

Teams often seem to need a catcher around the deadline. We have three who could be traded: Flowers, Suzuki and Recker.

[Southcack77]

List of potential players that might be traded:

Better than Average Chance at getting flipped;
Jaime Garcia - Our best trade chip, he's strung together several good starts now. The Braves could also open up a spot in the rotation by dealing Garcia.
Jason Motte - He's pitched reasonably well, he's a veteran with postseason experience; as long as he doesn't fall off a cliff, he's going to be dealt IMO.
Bradon Phillips - Hitting really well, good clubhouse guy, one-year deal - perfect trade candidate; even if its just to a team that wants another professional hitter off the bench, we should be able to move Phillips.

Coin Flip;
Jim Johnson - Could definitely see him being flipped, the SOs are at 9.7 K/9, but the Braves won't give him away either and they have him under contract next season.
Viz - I think the Braves would like to 'sell high' here with his injury history and PED instance, but for those same reasons another team likely won't overpay.
Adams - I'm of the belief the Braves should move him, but I have a feeling Coppy wants to keep him as insurance for Freddie and as bench bat next year. He's hit well since he's been here.

Doubtful
Kemp/Markakis - Don't see much value to outside teams here with the money owed, defensive issues and in Markakis' case the lack of power.
Teheran - His value has taken a big hit, so whats the point? Better off keeping him now.
Dickey/Colon - Little to no value here. Maybe you can get something for Dickey.

Good list.

With Matt Adams, I just wonder what his expected price tag for his last two years of control would be and whether that really makes sense for the Braves off the bench?

I was surprised that the Orioles had checked in on Dickey.

Johnson is probably a set up man to most teams, maybe a closer for a desperate situation that doesn't want to pay a ton.

I would think Tyler Flowers might be one of the more attractive assets. I'm relatively sure that would be a good idea. It seems pretty clearly a selling high proposition and you can't expect for it to last long even if it is real.

[Oklahomabrave]

Same with Garcia. Same with Viz. Almost the same with Adams.

The real score will be if Coppy can package 2-3 of those guys together and get a FV 50 guy from a contender whose needs line up perfectly.

Reliever markets are tricky. Viz might be able to bring more than we expect if he keeps pitching well.

[Super]

I don't see Viz fetching much right now. I think proven closers or absolutely dominant guys get dealt for a ton. He's neither.

[TheBravos]

Fangraphs has a 50FV on TD, and he was bought with Alvarez/Harrell..... not sure why some people are so sure that Garcia can only nab a 40/45 FV type guy.

That's what I'm thinking. Trade deadline deals are not normal deals. You have a team trying to contend and you have another with no need to compete in a loss season. The Braves should set a somewhat high price and only move a bit. They have most of the power, because they can simply keep the player. Colon and Dickey will not be that way, but definitely Garcia and any of the relievers.

What also helps, is a club trying to nab a package of our players for a player that is blocked in their orginazation. A certain Cubs 3rd baseman comes to mind.

[TheBravos]

Weird, I remember all the analysts thought we'd flip Harrell and Alvarez for a good piece last year.

A solid lefty starter would seem to be worth a good bit more than those two retreads. I'm not argueing as to what we will get, but it sure seems like that would be the low end. Good starting lefties don't grow on trees and if we covered some or even all of his salary....?

Garcia is not a retread either. He is an established vet, who still should be in his prime. Granted he has dealt with plenty of injuries.

A three player trade of say Garcia, JJ and Phillips could literally put a team over the top with talented vets (if that was their weak spots). I could see a GM giving up just about any one player, if he thought these guys were the perfect fit. It might be a high price at first glance, but still might be a better deal for a team than making 3 smaller separate trades.

[thewupk]

If I were the Braves I would aggressively shop a Garcia/JJ/Phillips package and pay their remaining salaries this year. That group has produced 3 WAR so far this year and I would sell that group as producing 3 more WAR the rest of the season. That would be a surplus value of around ~30 million and with the contenders premium should net a FV 55 player.

[Preacher]

If I were the Braves I would aggressively shop a Garcia/JJ/Phillips package and pay their remaining salaries this year. That group has produced 3 WAR so far this year and I would sell that group as producing 3 more WAR the rest of the season. That would be a surplus value of around ~30 million and with the contenders premium should net a FV 55 player.

I don't think the Braves will pay the remainder of salaries, I wish they would, but I doubt it.

[thewupk]

I don't think the Braves will pay the remainder of salaries, I wish they would, but I doubt it.

It would be like 7-7.5 million for all 3.

[clvclv]

If I were the Braves I would aggressively shop a Garcia/JJ/Phillips package and pay their remaining salaries this year. That group has produced 3 WAR so far this year and I would sell that group as producing 3 more WAR the rest of the season. That would be a surplus value of around ~30 million and with the contenders premium should net a FV 55 player.

Willie Calhoun?

Make it Calhoun and Will Smith and I'd jerk the Dodgers' arm off if I were Coppy. Unfortunately we know the Dodgers aren't likely to go there again.

[50PoundHead]

Willie Calhoun?

Make it Calhoun and Will Smith and I'd jerk the Dodgers' arm off if I were Coppy. Unfortunately we know the Dodgers aren't likely to go there again.

Calhoun would be a decent pick-up. Some defensive questions, but the guy can hit.