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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    CNN set the whole thing up? Lol
    The town hall Mr. TDS

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Not sure what you're responding to, but do you not believe the US has even conducted a false flag event?
    Can’t escape the iron grip of that logic.

    He was talking about gas attacks in Syria.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    Can’t escape the iron grip of that logic.

    He was talking about gas attacks in Syria.
    weren't those false flag operations by the cia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    Can’t escape the iron grip of that logic.

    He was talking about gas attacks in Syria.
    I asked a different question

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    The sequence as I see it:

    1) A couple posters hold up Ron Paul as a source of information that serves as a useful balance to mainstream media bias

    2) A poster points out that in the clip Paul is pushing the idea that chemical attacks in Syria are being conducted under a false flag

    3) One of Paul's supporters responds by asking if the US has ever conducted a false flag operation

    It is all good as discussion board banter goes. I would humbly suggest, however, that 2 is a much more germane response to 1 than 3 is to 2. ymmv
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    I would also make the observation that if a particular poster cared about being credible in arguing that our media are awful, that maybe it would not be good for that poster's credibility to hold up RT and Ron Paul as correctives to the biases of the mainstream media. Once again ymmv.
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    I think the media treatment of Ron Paul is evidence in itself how bad our media is.

    As far as US coverage is concerned, I've found RT to be pretty good.ymmv

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    I think the media treatment of Ron Paul is evidence in itself how bad our media is.

    As far as US coverage is concerned, I've found RT to be pretty good.ymmv
    maybe I've been brainwashed by the mainstream media but I find Ron Paul to be a crackpot and view coverage that exposes this as fair and accurate...i guess we have some differences in how we see Ron Paul and coverage of Ron Paul

    there is a serious issue about how to cover lunatics...as is the case with the current occupant of the Oval Office...you can either tiptoe around it or cover it for what it is...
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    I'd love for you expound on why Ron Paul is a crack pot but Bernie Sanders is legit.

    I know y'all hate the Constitution but until now you've at least tried to hide it

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    I'd love for you expound on why Ron Paul is a crack pot but Bernie Sanders is legit.

    I know y'all hate the Constitution but until now you've at least tried to hide it
    to believe that Ron Paul is a crackpot does not exclude believing Bernie is one too...i consider both to be crackpots...but I respect their right to be part of political discourse and the rights of their followers to expound upon their virtues
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    to believe that Ron Paul is a crackpot does not exclude believing Bernie is one too...i consider both to be crackpots...but I respect their right to be part of political discourse and the rights of their followers to expound upon their virtues
    But the media has treated them very differently

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    But the media has treated them very differently
    there you might have a fair point...there are a lot of things about Bernie that have been undercovered imo
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    The voters should get to decide not the media. I can handle my guy not winning. Happens all the time as a libertarian. What I cant accept is him not getting a fair shake and the shenanigans that went on to sabotage him. Thats not democracy. If he is a crackpot then they would have tried to stop him by giving him more coverage. God knows everytime Trump said something crazy they covered it 24/7 eventhough he was not considered a serious candidate by many people.



    Gary Johnson never really had a chance. I can accept him not getting covered, but Ron had a chance to win the nomination. He had a very strong and passionate grass roots campaign.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunrevenge View Post
    The voters should get to decide not the media. I can handle my guy not winning. Happens all the time as a libertarian. What I cant accept is him not getting a fair shake and the shenanigans that went on to sabotage him. Thats not democracy. If he is a crackpot then they would have tried to stop him by giving him more coverage. God knows everytime Trump said something crazy they covered it 24/7 eventhough he was not considered a serious candidate by many people.



    Gary Johnson never really had a chance. I can accept him not getting covered, but Ron had a chance to win the nomination. He had a very strong and passionate grass roots campaign.
    yes the voters should decide and I think it would make sense for them to get theirs news from a variety of sources

    but if a candidate exhibits erratic behavior and puts out a program where the numbers dont add up the media should include that in their coverage
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    btw I had a high regard for Weld...I was living in MA when he was guv

    Johnson not so much...I thought he was a flake which I suppose is one step up from crackpot

    Weld would be a good president imo...bright...excellent temperment... open to ideas
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    it's sad that someone like Weld doesnt have a natural political home
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    Why is Paul a crackpot?

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    I dont understand you people Gary Johnson is just a sane Republican. What makes McCain, Romney, Santorum, Gingrich, and Palin acceptable candidates and Gary Johnson one step from a crackpot?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunrevenge View Post
    I dont understand you people Gary Johnson is just a sane Republican. What makes McCain, Romney, Santorum, Gingrich, and Palin acceptable candidates and Gary Johnson one step from a crackpot?
    I don't get it either. Dude ran a state over successfully.

    Both sides haslve just decided that small government is a crackpot idea

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Why is Paul a crackpot?

    Its his foreign policy of being anti-war and isolationist. Going back to the gold standard. Balancing the budget. And getting rid of a whole bunch of departments like dept of education.
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