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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    “Remember when the failing @nytimes apologized to its subscribers, right after the election, because their coverage was so wrong. Now worse!” - lie

    Didn't you write this exact thing the other day, or was that someone else?
    https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/13/u...ve-editor.html

    Thats because the times did apologize for its reporting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    trump donated to them.
    and was talking about fake accusations on, you guessed it, twitter. almost like he knew this was coming and was hoping the fake story created by people who supposedly hate "fake news" would break. but he wouldn't have time for that, right? being that he's president and all?
    Tenuous, at best. Even in this construct (which is saying a lot).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    You do it with Fox, Breitbart, O'Keefe.
    lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    it's telling that you interpret it that way.
    it's mostly just funny that these people helped prove themselves wrong.
    stories like this are well-sourced and the person telling the story well-vetted. which is why your fear of one accusation bringing someone down is dumb. speaking of telling, it's telling that you're more worried about that than the masses of women who were and are actually being harassed and abused. not at all surprising, but definitely telling.
    There are countless examples in this thread about media lying and manipulating news to fit a certain narrative.

    Now we are tripping all over ourselves to congratulate the media for upholding minimum basic journalistic standards.

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    They've been enablers for a long time...Cokie Roberts talking about Conyers

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    Quote Originally Posted by BedellBrave View Post
    They've been enablers for a long time...Cokie Roberts talking about Conyers
    While simultaneously railing on Conservative sex offenders (as a reasonable person would).

    The media is a joke and people shrug their shoulders when they are called out for it.
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    VIDEO: In January, Pence scoffs at question about whether anyone in Trump campaign dealt with Russians. "Of course not." Blames questions in part on media bias.


    hmm - now where have I heard this before
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    A perfect example of what this thread is when a republican talks about "the media"

    "For there is always light, if only we are brave enough to see it. If only we are brave enough to be it." Amanda Gorman

    "When Fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross"

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    Want an example of leftist bias in the media? LoOK at how joy reids homophobic blog posts and subsequent apology is being covered

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    In the other thread you twice quoted tweets from a guy who was pushing a conspiracy theory about a child sex ring operating from the basement of a pizza parlor that didn't have a basement. Forgive me if I think your media criticism resonates pretty poorly.

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    i'm shocked that yall didn't cover this one in this abortion of a thread

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    For the life of me I don’t see why people care about the bias of Fox News and MSNBC. Audiences on both sides have long since realized they are watching cheerleaders for their sides.

    It’s like criticizing a Braves fan on Chop Country for being a Pozzy because they project Acuna to have 8 WAR rookie season.

    I do think the gold standard news reporting entities like NYT, WaPo, ABC, etc. deserve to be held to a higher standard. In the same way I expect Fangraphs to be subjective in its coverage of each team, I expect those outlets to be subjective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    lol
    My point here, and I'm curious to see you address it with substance instead of just a "lol," is not that you give credence to those outlets, but that you sort of high-handedly laugh then off whenever anyone mentions them. The implication is that nobody takes them seriously. Obviously, people do. Not everyone has your rigorous standards. So you have pointed criticism for other media outlets, but you dismiss the idea that these hyperpartisan outlets have any influence. In doing so you neglect their well-documented ability to drive mainstream media coverage as well as their place as messaging nodes for a particular political stripe.

    Hell, the head of Breitbart had a West Wing office for a few months.

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    https://www.politico.com/blogs/media...stories-194906

    This is tyranny. The media is showing to be the enemy of the people while they cover up and do the bidding for the power brokers in this country.
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    Simon Maloy‏Verified account @SimonMaloy
    23h23 hours ago

    it's a shame @daveweigel made a major error like one misleading tweet and not something minor

    like repeatedly

    lying about the president's birthplace for half a decade
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    So is it a "major error" or a "misleading tweet"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    So is it a "major error" or a "misleading tweet"?
    Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
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    Very little discussion of all the purposely false and defamatory stories put out this week by the Fake News Media. They are out of control - correct reporting means nothing to them. Major lies written, then forced to be withdrawn after they are exposed...a stain on America!
    ...........

    Wondering if Weigel was one of those that reported in real time Trump promising to release his taxes .
    Or was going to build a wall -- first day
    Last edited by 57Brave; 12-10-2017 at 07:21 PM.
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    So Trump calls it a "major lie" and your tweet dude affirms the characterization.

    What's the issue here, again?

    I see a lot of conflating, but no point.

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