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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    I don't watch much news as I have a dislike with the partisanship of it but Fox will report both sides even if it is against Republicans best interest. NBC/CNN/CBS won't. ABC is more in the middle.

    Case in point, the Apple news with Tax Reform. It went against both NBC and CNN ideology and refuse to report it but whre quick to find the first paparozzi information they could find on Trump and make it headline news.

    I have a problem with that because that is not news. If I want to see a circus, I will see it in person, I don't want to see or hear it on the news 24 hours a day. That is all we get. To me, those news stations are just reality TV, just like the Kardashians, we have The Trumps.

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    This memo is obvious, self-refuting elk **** but we can't assume it's not working.

    Every Sunday show is talking about it and none are asking why Trump

    isn't sanctioning Russia or how much Trump just cut his own taxes

    or why the CDC is leaving us vulnerable to global outbreaks or ...
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    Not so subtle dig.

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    So **** atheists then? In terms of demographic its growing while most of the ones represented are shrinking. There is a long history of discrimination against atheists in this country. Still to this day they are one of the least trusted groups in polls. Pretty sure they like blacks more than atheists in Alabama. If it was an atheist vs Roy Moore he would have got 80% or more and thats conservative. Roy Moore could have brought a 16 year old girl to a campraign rally and refer to her as his sweet cherry pie and not lost to an Atheist in Alabama.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Define what journalism means. Newspapers? Online News Media? Does that include Fox News/CNN/MSNBC too?

    What are your thoughts on Sinclair Broadcast Group and how they run the same agenda through their 80+ networks across the country on their local news broadcasts?

    Also. does Sirota mention how a lot of print news media has been consolidated in the last two decades?
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    yeah, we need more reporters in Des Moines and Pierre

    i mean, that's where the "REAL" news happens

    i mean, why would a lot of "reporters" be in Washington DC and New York City
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    yeah, we need more reporters in Des Moines and Pierre

    i mean, that's where the "REAL" news happens

    i mean, why would a lot of "reporters" be in Washington DC and New York City
    That's a great point.

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    It's always interesting to read old articles about major events.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/comment...election-2016/

    The mood in the Washington press corps is bleak, and deservedly so.

    It shouldn’t come as a surprise to anyone that, with a few exceptions, we were all tacitly or explicitly #WithHer, which has led to a certain anguish in the face of Donald Trump’s victory. More than that and more importantly, we also missed the story, after having spent months mocking the people who had a better sense of what was going on.

    This is all symptomatic of modern journalism’s great moral and intellectual failing: its unbearable smugness. Had Hillary Clinton won, there’d be a winking “we did it” feeling in the press, a sense that we were brave and called Trump a liar and saved the republic.

    So much for that. The audience for our glib analysis and contempt for much of the electorate, it turned out, was rather limited. This was particularly true when it came to voters, the ones who turned out by the millions to deliver not only a rebuke to the political system but also the people who cover it. Trump knew what he was doing when he invited his crowds to jeer and hiss the reporters covering him. They hate us, and have for some time.

    And can you blame them? Journalists love mocking Trump supporters. We insult their appearances. We dismiss them as racists and sexists. We emote on Twitter about how this or that comment or policy makes us feel one way or the other, and yet we reject their feelings as invalid.

    It’s a profound failure of empathy in the service of endless posturing. There’s been some sympathy from the press, sure: the dispatches from “heroin country” that read like reports from colonial administrators checking in on the natives. But much of that starts from the assumption that Trump voters are backward, and that it’s our duty to catalogue and ultimately reverse that backwardness. What can we do to get these people to stop worshiping their false god and accept our gospel?

    We diagnose them as racists in the way Dark Age clerics confused medical problems with demonic possession. Journalists, at our worst, see ourselves as a priestly caste. We believe we not only have access to the indisputable facts, but also a greater truth, a system of beliefs divined from an advanced understanding of justice.

    You’d think that Trump’s victory – the one we all discounted too far in advance – would lead to a certain newfound humility in the political press. But of course that’s not how it works. To us, speaking broadly, our diagnosis was still basically correct. The demons were just stronger than we realized.

    This is all a “whitelash,” you see. Trump voters are racist and sexist, so there must be more racists and sexists than we realized. Tuesday night’s outcome was not a logic-driven rejection of a deeply flawed candidate named Clinton; no, it was a primal scream against fairness, equality, and progress. Let the new tantrums commence!

    That’s the fantasy, the idea that if we mock them enough, call them racist enough, they’ll eventually shut up and get in line. It’s similar to how media Twitter works, a system where people who dissent from the proper framing of a story are attacked by mobs of smugly incredulous pundits. Journalists exist primarily in a world where people can get shouted down and disappear, which informs our attitudes toward all disagreement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Interesting how the context is lost on this, and people would get offended by this.

    Let's blame the media instead. By the way, how come no talk of what Sinclair Broadcasting Corporation is doing? Or are we only going after the "national" media.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forever Fredi View Post
    Interesting how the context is lost on this, and people would get offended by this.

    Let's blame the media instead. By the way, how come no talk of what Sinclair Broadcasting Corporation is doing? Or are we only going after the "national" media.
    You always bring it back to Fox. The bias in the media is basically Fox vs everyone else. Are you mad that Fox has the audacity to think differently? If you don’t like fox don’t watch it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krgrecw View Post
    You always bring it back to Fox. The bias in the media is basically Fox vs everyone else. Are you mad that Fox has the audacity to think differently? If you don’t like fox don’t watch it.
    Sinclair?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    Sinclair?

    Sinclair owns a lot of the local fox networks. Sinclair is code for Fox.

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    I've never heard of sinclair

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krgrecw View Post
    Sinclair owns a lot of the local fox networks. Sinclair is code for Fox.
    It's a completely discrete issue.

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