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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Phillips performance is another example why past performance doesn't always dictate the future.
    A 30 point increase in BABIP will do that to your numbers. Hopefully a team needs a 2B and doesn't notice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBravos View Post
    With Adams in the fold. Say...the Yankees come calling about Freddie. Not saying we should do it, but with their farm...what would a trade look like with them.
    Adams is only signed past this year, but for the sake of discussion.

    Probably something like Sanchez, Sevi, Frazier, and Fowler at the very least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Pedigree man. Judge was never supposed to do this harper was supposed to be the best player in baseball.
    I'd rather go off results than hype.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Hasn't the park normalized to middle of the pack?
    http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/park-...-statcast-fun/


    "You might not be able to tell from traditional park-factor data, but the new Atlanta ballpark appears to be much more hitter friendly than its predecessor. The fly balls hit by the Braves and their opponents to data haven’t been hit all that hard (“should have” resulted in .301 AVG-.846 SLG to date), but have actually resulted in much more production (.345 AVG-1.008 SLG, 137.9 Fly Ball Park Factor). In all of MLB, almost exactly 15.0% of fly balls hit between 95-100 mph have gone over the wall this season; 22.0% of such flies have done so in this new yard."

    It's the new launching pad

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    To be fair with Judge, he was bad last year. Has been insane this year but hard to say if he'll be this good going forward.

    Certainly doesnt hurt to ask for him in a trade for Freeman, hypothetically but i get sturg hates the FO currently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/park-...-statcast-fun/


    "You might not be able to tell from traditional park-factor data, but the new Atlanta ballpark appears to be much more hitter friendly than its predecessor. The fly balls hit by the Braves and their opponents to data haven’t been hit all that hard (“should have” resulted in .301 AVG-.846 SLG to date), but have actually resulted in much more production (.345 AVG-1.008 SLG, 137.9 Fly Ball Park Factor). In all of MLB, almost exactly 15.0% of fly balls hit between 95-100 mph have gone over the wall this season; 22.0% of such flies have done so in this new yard."

    It's the new launching pad
    Still think we need more data before we close the book on how the park plays. But the early returns are certainly what you are saying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    Adams is only signed past this year, but for the sake of discussion.

    Probably something like Sanchez, Sevi, Frazier, and Fowler at the very least.
    Of course you would lock up Adams long term and much cheaper.I Think now that Adams is in shape...this is the player he is. He is not Freddie of course, but he is more than adequate. If you added so much other talent (knowing the Yankees position player strength)...added with the position players we have on the way plus all our pitching...my oh my. I LOVE Freddie, but maybe you get three future all stars for one present (when you know most of his contract will be burned in non contending years). It's worth a thought.

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    Play Adams in RF. Anything hit over his head is leaving the park anyway, so don't sweat it. FF/Kemp/Adams would be fun there in the middle...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBravos View Post
    Glad we snagged Hursh the pick right BEFORE Judge #goodmove .
    Also drafted Victor Caratini that year who's playing well in AAA for the Cubs....traded him for Bonifacio and James Russell 🙄
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Still think we need more data before we close the book on how the park plays. But the early returns are certainly what you are saying.
    Considering how Fulton Co played I suspect that this is just the way it is. Atlanta was the highest stadium above sea level until Coors and then Chase Field was built.

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    It is interesting to think about trading Freeman. Getting Adams kind of shows how its easier to find a hitter that doesn't hurt you that much on defense.

    If you can trade Freeman for two potential stud everyday players and find a first baseman do you do it?

    I say no because I have an insane man crush on Freeman but it is an interesting thought.
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    There's a PR element involved with trading FF that would be pretty devastating locally. People LOVE Freddie...

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    Only reason to consider it is will we re-sign him when his contract is up to a monster contract in his 32-37 age years at 30+ a year given contracts today.

    Does depend on the return of course, would have to be a godfather offer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    To be fair with Judge, he was bad last year. Has been insane this year but hard to say if he'll be this good going forward.

    Certainly doesnt hurt to ask for him in a trade for Freeman, hypothetically but i get sturg hates the FO currently.
    I am not sure how that has anything to do with the proposed trade offer about the FO.

    Why would the Yanks give up two key young every day pieces, both on rookie contracts, for one key every day piece on a massive contract?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    I am not sure how that has anything to do with the proposed trade offer about the FO.

    Why would the Yanks give up two key young every day pieces, both on rookie contracts, for one key every day piece on a massive contract?
    Is Freeman a monster contract to a team like the Yankees? I get what you are saying but you can't just assume Judge will be even 90% of what Freeman is.
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    The Yankees don't care about money and $130 mil deal is very cost effective in their world. Frazier is a GA boy and has long hair lol. Doesn't look Yankee "esk".
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    I just love Phillips so much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    Only reason to consider it is will we re-sign him when his contract is up to a monster contract in his 32-37 age years at 30+ a year given contracts today.

    Does depend on the return of course, would have to be a godfather offer.
    And that's what I'm thinking. I think I'm the end we will have one or two years with Freddie where it will matter. The rest of his years will be on losing and .500-.600 teams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    I am not sure how that has anything to do with the proposed trade offer about the FO.

    Why would the Yanks give up two key young every day pieces, both on rookie contracts, for one key every day piece on a massive contract?
    For a team like the Yankees who have unlimited money and i wouldnt say Freeman's contract is that big.

    20+ mil for a top 5 1B is a relative bargain.

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