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Thread: 6/18 Father's Day GDT: Miami Marlins (30-36) at Atlanta Braves (30-37)

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    I think you may be selling Camargo short. I think his long-term future is as a utility man, but I don't see anyone on the roster right now who would be a markedly better 3B than he is.

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    Sample is relatively small but Camargo did have an OPS of .853 in AAA versus .752 for Ruiz.

    Coming into this season Ruiz had been the better hitting prospect. I don't think the sample this season is enough to overturn that quite yet. But we'll see. I'm ok with them splitting playing time about evenly for now. Let's see how it plays out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Sample is relatively small but Camargo did have an OPS of .853 in AAA versus .752 for Ruiz.

    Coming into this season Ruiz had been the better hitting prospect. I don't think the sample this season is enough to overturn that quite yet. But we'll see. I'm ok with them splitting playing time about evenly for now. Let's see how it plays out.
    One thing is for sure, Camargo is good enough to hold down 2B after Phillips is traded and for the early part of 2018 until Albies is called up.

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    Camargo is very interesting. He was always great defensively but made some well documented adjustments at the plate and it has worked out thus far. Could be our next Prado.

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    Yeah - I actually feel like Carmargo is really valuable as a SS on a rookie deal.

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    Interesting note - 2016 Braves didn't win their 31st game until July 10th.

    Take that for what it's worth.
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    Like 50, I've been a fan of Camargo for a while. I'm not sure if he's going to have enough pop to really stick at third, but he seems to be able to barrel the ball up fairly readily, and it looks to me like he has some room to bulk up a bit. I hope he gets a chance to make an impression.

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    I have little confidence in Ruiz. I'd like to see Camargo play third the rest of the year to see what we have.

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    Could Phillips play 3b? Assuming he actually can and will, it'd be nice to sign him a 2-year contract and have Albies at 2b.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Could Phillips play 3b? Assuming he actually can and will, it'd be nice to sign him a 2-year contract and have Albies at 2b.
    Not an idea I would try. His BABIP is artificially high and he wouldn't bring enough offense to the position. His age is also a huge problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garmel View Post
    Not a good idea. His BABIP is artificially high and he wouldn't bring enough offense to the position. His age is also a huge problem.
    Beyond that, he doesn't have anywhere close to having the arm to play 3rd these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by auyushu View Post
    Beyond that, he doesn't have anywhere close to having the arm to play 3rd these days.
    That too.

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    Did some quick number crunching and it looks like the Braves might surpass last years attendance by 600K. That would be a nice bump for the opening park.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Did some quick number crunching and it looks like the Braves might surpass last years attendance by 600K. That would be a nice bump for the opening park.
    Good thing - needed to pay Big Sexy!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by clvclv View Post
    Good thing - needed to pay Big Sexy!!!

    What a disaster that was. Even still...there is no more outrage over poor attendance. Braves could find a way to be in top 10 this year of the uptick mirrors last year's uptick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Did some quick number crunching and it looks like the Braves might surpass last years attendance by 600K. That would be a nice bump for the opening park.
    Right now we're averaging a 22% increase, whereas MLB average is around 30% for new parks/

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Right now we're averaging a 22% increase, whereas MLB average is around 30% for new parks/
    You have to account for the bump after June 23rd. Last year the braves saw a 17% increase in games after June 23rd in comparison to the games prior. When you bake that into the numbers for 2017 and project i have the increase at 33.27% for the year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    You have to account for the bump after June 23rd. Last year the braves saw a 17% increase in games after June 23rd in comparison to the games prior. When you bake that into the numbers for 2017 and project i have the increase at 33.27% for the year.
    I don't understand why a bump after June 23rd would matter. We're talking % here

    If we're averaging 22% more than last year now, why wouldn't we continue to average ~22% above last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Right now we're averaging a 22% increase, whereas MLB average is around 30% for new parks/
    I'd like to know how many new parks went down in capacity

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    I don't understand why a bump after June 23rd would matter. We're talking % here

    If we're averaging 22% more than last year now, why wouldn't we continue to average ~22% above last year.
    Because the Braves average more per game after a certain point in time because kids were not in school anymore. You have to assume a similar increase in 2017 from the dates prior to June 23rd 2017.
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