So, there's a non-zero chance that our season will come down to a Freddy Garcia start.
That's...that's not exactly what I was expecting.
So, there's a non-zero chance that our season will come down to a Freddy Garcia start.
That's...that's not exactly what I was expecting.
Braves1976 (09-23-2013)
And people wonder why folks think Fredi is a terrible manager
Dalyn (09-24-2013)
Well, Downs and Avilan haven't been great lately.
Could go with Medlen on short rest if he goes in Game 1.
Not sure why they wouldn't go Wood in Game 4.
I suspect the game 1 pitcher might go in game 4 if it is an elimination game for us. Otherwise one of Maholm/Garcia will go in game 4, depending on which one does best in his last start and the other team's strengths and weaknesses against lefties/righties.
You guys continue to trash Freddy Garcia, when all he's done is be very good for the Braves. Throw out what he did with the Orioles. EJ was crappy with KC and he's been good with Atlanta. Bottom line is right now, if Wood is moving to the pen, I'd rather have Garcia in the rotation than Maholm.
Originally Posted by Bdawg2309
He pitched even better against Nats for O's and besides them he only faced a terrible Miami team starting. So why should we throw anything out? The last time I checked the Nats won't be in the playoffs. He's only shown so far that he can pitch well vs them and lowly Miami. But against most everyone else he's been very bad this year.
Last edited by Braves1976; 09-23-2013 at 06:09 PM.
A couple good starts aside, I'll be incredibly pissed if we're down 2-1 in the NLDS and we start Garcia or Maholm.
The question I have re the bullpen is what's the deal with Walden? He's not being used at all. Avilan is, for better or for worse.
And people wondered why I wanted a SP and another RP
FAIL WREN FAIL!!!!!
I thought you argued with me that one wasn't needed...
I did at one point yes. But before the august 31st I was asking for one. Beachy wasn't doing well and Maholm was sucking. We needed to add one.
Thought it might have been someone else. Wren needed to grab someone before the season started. The result is that we have Freddy Garcia starting in the playoffs. You know, the guy people used as an example of the horrible choices out there and why Wren DIDN'T need to add another pitcher.
Wren was hoping Beachy would be healthy. Its not easy to find someone to stash in AAA at the start of the season. Most guys are going to sign where they can atleast be given a chance to win a spot in the rotation but the braves didn't have that. At the very least Wren should have gotten a RP. Avilan wasn't going to be lights out all year and Walden is a walking injury.
We are not going to fair well in the playoffs unless things change quickly.
Yep. He took several unnecessary risks. Hope the team gets lucky.
Like he could of predicted all these injuries.
It was pretty easy, man. We've had no more than any other year (just different).
Last year we used 10 starting pitchers. How many this year? 10.
Last year we used 15 relief pitchers. How many this year? 15.
IT WAS OBVIOUS.
Last edited by Dalyn; 09-24-2013 at 10:18 PM.
Meds
Maholm
Huddy
Minor
Teheran
Beachy
Gilmartin
Graham
Wood
That's 9 quality starters. That is plenty. This 10 starter stuff is crap. You can't compare other yrs pitching staffs to our current rotation. This is one of the deepest staffs we have had in recent memory. Only 2009 could be arguably better/dependable than this yr's staff. Hell, we didn't even need 10 starters this yr. And the only reason we even used 10 starters is b/c we had a playoff spot locked up, and we used Loe and Garcia in garbage tmie starts. So really we only needed 8 starters this yr.
If you have 5-6 above above average starters on ur staff already and several good starting pitching prospects at the top level of the minors, then no sane person is going to look at starting pitching depth as a need.
Last edited by Carp; 09-25-2013 at 12:09 AM.
We have Freddy Garcia starting in the playoffs. No problem at all. Obviously.
We have needed at least eight pitchers for a decade. A decade. It isn't crap. And Beachy wasn't available for the first half and was coming off a major surgery. Gilmartin crashed in spring training. Graham was not quite ready for the big leagues. And Wood wasn't even on the radar (We got lucky there, thankfully). I can't believe some of you are so desperate not to have been wrong that you completely ignore the mess the staff is in. We are lucky the season isn't a month longer.
should've gone after greinke instead of overpaid bum BJ
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