Affordable Care Act

[sturg33]

Saw something this morning that made me laugh for a few minutes then get quiet and sad.

When asked, more Americans opposed Obamacare versus The Affordable Care Act.

46% of Americans say they oppose Obamacare.
37% of Americans say they oppose the Affordable Care Act.

Quite comical, and quite sad.

At least we know what "news" channel that 9% is watching. No wonder Fox News brags about their ratings so much.

You know that is just people being ignorant of what the Affordable Care Act actually is.

Literally, it's a good sounding bill. Much like the "Patriot Act." When someone asks "Do you oppose the Patriot Act?" People will of course say no! But if they knew what the bill actually was they would be against it.

Having said that, it shouldn't be surprising that many in this country support it. It's an entitlement country now - and who the hell cares if we have no long term viable option to pay for it.

[weso1]

All I can say is LOL TED CRUZ.

I know... what was he thinking?

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[zitothebrave]

You know that is just people being ignorant of what the Affordable Care Act actually is.

Literally, it's a good sounding bill. Much like the "Patriot Act." When someone asks "Do you oppose the Patriot Act?" People will of course say no! But if they knew what the bill actually was they would be against it.

Having said that, it shouldn't be surprising that many in this country support it. It's an entitlement country now - and who the hell cares if we have no long term viable option to pay for it.

Can't forget No Child Left Behind.

[thethe]

Can't forget No Child Left Behind.

Literally the worst piece of legislation in the history of this country.

[zitothebrave]

Literally the worst piece of legislation in the history of this country.

There are many worse, but it's really bad. Certainly one of the worst in the last decade or so though. But it doesn't hold a candle to Indian Removal Act, Fugitive Slave Act, Kansas Nebraska act, the 18th Amendment, the Volstead Act, and the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution to name a few were waaaay worse.

[thethe]

I wanted to be an educator prior to becoming a corporate slave. The future is education especially in the early years of children and this act completely destroyed any sense of creativity in the classroom. We haven't even begun to feel the disastorous affects of this policy.

[zitothebrave]

Oh it's a horrible law. The republicans really screwed the pooch for future generations. But it fits their MO screw the public schools, which appeases their constituents.

[sturg33]

I think we could just agree that the department of education was the real monstrosity.

But hey, Ron Paul is a whacko cause he wants to get rid of it!

[sturg33]

I know... what was he thinking?

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Two semi-libertarian folks leading the way... Maybe we can convince Ron to jump back in 2016. The more liberty voices the better (FYI- There is much I don't like about Cruz, but agree with him on a lot of things)

[The Chosen One]

I know... what was he thinking?

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Considering the state the Republican Party is in right now nationally, that's like leading the Wild Card race when you're 8 games back behind in the division.

And I already stated that Cruz was doing this strictly to boost his 2016 outlook, and that any conservative who genuinely thinks he's interested in stopping Obamacare (When he knows he has literally no chance) is no smarter than any Obama sheep.

[zitothebrave]

I think we could just agree that the department of education was the real monstrosity.

But hey, Ron Paul is a whacko cause he wants to get rid of it!

DOEd was fine until Bust expanded it drastically.

[goldfly]

i still don't get why he didn't actually filibuster it if he actually felt the way he said he felt

[57Brave]

Wow, it is October 1 and the sun rose - no one has been enslaved YET - the death panels haven't sent anyone to Georgia yet and seems like everything is normal
What happened -- thought today was to be THE DAY -- makes me wonder if Michelle Bachmann, Sarah Palin, Mark Levine and Ruch Limbaugh et al might have gotten a little hyperbolic??

Seriously:
Rhode Island goal is 100,000 enrollees by the end of 2014.

Talked to a married couple in their early 60's last night one an independent building contractor and the other a hair stylist that looked into the exchanges and found they will save at least over $200 a month and get more coverage. Of course our state is the most saturated with insurance companies so there is competition amongst the providers to get the business. Wyoming not so much.

To say the least, this will be interesting to see how this plays out and just how long before we finally get single payer / Medicare for all

[57Brave]

thought this from twitter interesting::

Richard Yeselson ‏@yeselson 8h

Essentially, federalism/rabid conservative opposition will make Obamacare a mostly blue state program. Tragedy for uninsured in red states.
Retweeted by EJ Dionne

[50PoundHead]

I think we could just agree that the department of education was the real monstrosity.

But hey, Ron Paul is a whacko cause he wants to get rid of it!

Getting rid of the DOE wouldn't repeal NCLB (which I agree is a terrible law). That has to happen through congressional action and both parties still seem wedded to a number of the core concepts of the law (regardless that it is now Race to the Top). If you eliminated the DOE, 100% of the money they distribute through Title I and Special Education funding and about 90% of the employees in the department would simply be shifted back to HHS (which was HEW before the DOE was created).

[gilesfan]

Talked to a married couple in their early 60's last night one an independent building contractor and the other a hair stylist that looked into the exchanges and found they will save at least over $200 a month and get more coverage. Of course our state is the most saturated with insurance companies so there is competition amongst the providers to get the business. Wyoming not so much. l

Thats surprising. It's going to cost everyone I've talked to a **** ton more money, including myself.

[thethe]

My dad is bitching about how much more its costing him per month and that his coverages are dropping and he is retired on medicare/cade (always mess them up).

[goldfly]

My dad is bitching about how much more its costing him per month and that his coverages are dropping and he is retired on medicare/cade (always mess them up).

uh

what?

[thethe]

My dad was just bitching to me how more money is coming out of his social security to pay for his benefits and that less of his health care expenses are being covered. Sorry, I didn't memorize what they are just know that he was pissed off about it.

[Tapate50]

Funny, claim was no medical info being asked, but last I checked Height\Weight is medical info... I wonder how many folks are going to lie just to get cheaper rates...Everybody probably? Exchanges aren't answering the phone this morning either...