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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Yep... this is the longer term issue... less people will go into medicine if there's not some sort of reward at the end of the tunnel. And doctors already don't accept medicare/medicaid because reimbursement is so low.
    Quality is being sacrificed for quantity.

    Funny how when the government gets involved quality is always the first thing that gets lost.
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    Why do you need quality when you can force the customer to buy your product. Like the police.
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    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...son/738869001/

    The Trump administration is expanding the religious exemption for employers that don't want to provide insurance coverage for certain birth control methods because they have moral objections under rules announced Friday.

    The Affordable Care Act required all employers to cover birth control for their workers without any co-payment, but the provision has been embroiled in lawsuits ever since.

    The new rules allow any employer or insurer to stop covering contraceptive services if they have religious beliefs or moral convictions against covering birth control. It would be up to states to determine how companies should make these decisions.

    Senior Health and Human Services officials said only a small fraction of women who get birth control without cost from their employers will be affected, as some large companies, including Pepsi and Exxon, had pre-ACA plans that will continue. Some church groups were already exempt from the law and not providing this coverage. The officials requested anonymity during a Friday call with reporters.

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    No mention, naturally, that a lot of the NHS' recent problems are a result of the Tories' austerity regimes ...
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    Kentucky to sue the administration over CSR cutoff along with California, New York, Massachusetts, Connecticut

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    Ezra Klein‏Verified account @ezraklein 6h6 hours ago
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    Trump's new policy will increase premiums by 20%, cost the government $194 billion, increase the deficit, destabilize insurance markets, and increase the number of uninsured Americans. There is nothing it makes better; it's pure policy nihilism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
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    Trump's new policy will increase premiums by 20%, cost the government $194 billion, increase the deficit, destabilize insurance markets, and increase the number of uninsured Americans. There is nothing it makes better; it's pure policy nihilism.
    He wants to back-door implode the marketplaces. As someone who advocates for single-payer, but thinks the ACA is seriously flawed law, I can dispassionately say that—for better or worse for average Americans (but probably a lot worse, in the short-term)—it's not a terrible strategy, given where his Congress has left him.
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    It's a horrible strategy for those that need it.
    If you don't rely on it --- think of those that do..

    We agree on single payer. I see ACA as a bridge - not a finished product

    Alexander / Murray :

    "Trump has taunted GOP senators on Twitter and threatened to end cost-sharing subsidy funding, in a move that could drive up premiums and potentially prompt insurers to flee the market altogether. He’s also suggested ending the federal contributions that lawmakers receive to help pay for their own health care."

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/0...-senate-241224
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    It's completely understandable as a strategy, but downright sadistic where the rubber meets the road, for the people affected.

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    Dont understand how this is/has been/again even a political football.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    It's completely understandable as a strategy, but downright sadistic where the rubber meets the road, for the people affected.
    Destroy the village to save it -- is an understandable strategy too -- but ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    It's completely understandable as a strategy, but downright sadistic where the rubber meets the road, for the people affected.
    This is all I'm really saying—though I guess I've resigned myself to this EO outcome for a while, so I'm having trouble ringing the alarm bells.

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    It's a horrible strategy for those that need it.
    If you don't rely on it --- think of those that do..

    We agree on single payer. I see ACA as a bridge - not a finished product
    It's a good strategy with horrible outcomes. I'm neither happy nor unsympathetic about what these EOs will do—I guess I'm just hoping the fallout is that this "forces" the other end of the bridge to be built from ACA to single-payer.
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    Amazing that libs are suddenly concerned about rising premiums when ACA was just "the cost of having a civilized society,"

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    to you perhaps -- not every citizen has had your leg up

    can't understand how you don't get that
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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    to you perhaps -- not every citizen has had your leg up

    can't understand how you don't get that
    ... What? Not sure how that relates to my post

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    "my leg up"

    Get the **** out of here. I grew up eating saltiness and Campbell's soup for dinner. Graduated college with over 120k in debt.

    Sorry I didn't feel sorry for myself and beg the government for help

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    Ezra Klein‏Verified account @ezraklein 13h13 hours ago

    Trump's new policy will increase premiums by 20%, cost the government $194 billion, increase the deficit, destabilize insurance markets, and increase the number of uninsured Americans. There is nothing it makes better; it's pure policy nihilism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    "my leg up"

    Get the **** out of here. I grew up eating saltiness and Campbell's soup for dinner. Graduated college with over 120k in debt.

    Sorry I didn't feel sorry for myself and beg the government for help
    be careful you don't fall patting yourself on the back
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