Affordable Care Act

[57Brave]

http://www.houstonchronicle.com/busi...witter-premium

[57Brave]

Rubber is meeting the road

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/21/us...=tw-share&_r=0

[57Brave]

The CNN segment features people who live in Eastern Kentucky coal country and backed Trump because he promised to bring back coal jobs. Now, however, they worry that a provision in the ACA that makes it easier for longtime coal miners with black lung disease*to get disability benefits could get eliminated along with the law. That provision shifted the burden of proving that the disability was directly caused by work in the mines away from the victim. Those benefits include financial and medical benefits. Some benefits now also extend to the widows of miners who had black lung disease — or pneumoconiosis, a lung illness associated with inhalation of coal dust — after their husbands die. Other reporting has also confirmed widespread coal country worries about losing these protections.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...=.44a2e3128c90


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[57Brave]

The Rude Pundit ‏@rudepundit 1h1 hour ago

Soon the GOP will say on Obamacare: If Dems hadn't given people health insurance, they wouldn't have to take it away



why do religious leaders support (R) that will kick 20+million people to the curb and deny seniors medicare
WWJD

[goldfly]

republicans aren't getting rid of it

they are just going to stop calling it Obamacare and going to replace it's real name of ACA with something else and it's going to be the same thing essentially

at least all the ideas i have read thus far that they have come up with have been that

smoke and mirrors bull****

[57Brave]

The below link points out that the program is working well where given an honest opportunity.
California it is working
Texas, not so much

Jonathan Chait
Verified account
‏@jonathanchait
“Insurance markets are collapsing,” insists Paul Ryan. Actually, they're not.



http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer...-stronger.html

Obamacare’s continued non-demise is terrible news for the Republican party. The GOP base, fed on years of slanted news depicting the law as an unmitigated disaster, expects it to be repealed quickly. If the law was collapsing on its own, it might be easier for Republicans to kill it off, or simply to let it die, without a political backlash. But the existence of a stable, and indeed growing, constituency means that their agenda will create numerous victims. As Sarah Kliff’s close reporting in Kentucky found, many Obamacare beneficiaries voted for Trump either because they believed his promises to give them “something terrific” that would cover all their medical expenses, or they disbelieved his promises to repeal the law that they now depend on. They now face the reality that the Republican agenda will inflict serious harm on their own constituents.
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Where do "The Christians" stand on ACA ?
I am told I am obliged to take them into account

So here -- where does the Bible stand on ACA

[acesfull86]

I haven't finished the whole book but I don't get the sense that there is a section on government mandated healthcare programs coming. Could be wrong, but that would be an odd plot twist.

[57Brave]

keep reading

[sturg33]

The Rude Pundit ‏@rudepundit 1h1 hour ago

Soon the GOP will say on Obamacare: If Dems hadn't given people health insurance, they wouldn't have to take it away



why do religious leaders support (R) that will kick 20+million people to the curb and deny seniors medicare
WWJD

I'm still confused how removing the mandate of health insurance would take it away from people?

[57Brave]

I'm still confused how removing the mandate of health insurance would take it away from people?

Perhaps it is time for you to play devils advocate and explain it to us all



Because I don't think you understand what it is you disagree with

[sturg33]

Perhaps it is time for you to play devils advocate and explain it to us all



Because I don't think you understand what it is you disagree with

I need your help understanding how repealing ACA denies people medical coverage?

[goldfly]

wasn't asked to me but

well, those with pre existing conditions lose insurance

so, i would say those people are being denied medical coverage since they were only allowed coverage cause of ACA

[57Brave]

I need your help understanding how repealing ACA denies people medical coverage?

From your above statement --- gather you don't understand how or why this program is working.
I respect if you are against it - I just get the notion you are running with the herd and have little if any understanding of what it is you are opposed to
Other than the name attached

So for funnsies, play devils advocate and make the case for ACA
otherwise you are just another college Republican showing little concern for policy with only a shallow interest in winning a horse race

[sturg33]

it baffles me how obtuse you are

[57Brave]

Millions of people's health care is at stake, but I guess "who will win the day" is the *real* story.

[57Brave]

it baffles me how obtuse you are

Ball's in your court
what say you ?

[57Brave]

JKo
‏@suburbangrouse

@AlecMacGillis

Old white guy in Dr.'s waiting room, sitting next to me:"they said Obamacare would be repealed, not the Affordable Care Act!"

[57Brave]

Last month, two big trade groups—the American Hospital Association and the Federation of American Hospitals—warned publicly that repealing the A.C.A. could cost hospitals a hundred and sixty-five billion dollars and trigger an “unprecedented public health crisis.” In a letter to Congress on Tuesday, Dr. James Madara, the chief executive of the American Medical Association, said, “We believe that before any action is taken . . . policymakers should lay out for the American people, in reasonable detail, what will replace current policies.”

http://www.newyorker.com/news/john-c...-the-democrats

[goldfly]

Last month, two big trade groups—the American Hospital Association and the Federation of American Hospitals—warned publicly that repealing the A.C.A. could cost hospitals a hundred and sixty-five billion dollars and trigger an “unprecedented public health crisis.” In a letter to Congress on Tuesday, Dr. James Madara, the chief executive of the American Medical Association, said, “We believe that before any action is taken . . . policymakers should lay out for the American people, in reasonable detail, what will replace current policies.”

http://www.newyorker.com/news/john-c...-the-democrats

7 years and counting and they still don't have a plan

but they are willing to just toss it

it must suck that the plan you came up with in the 90s to counter a public option is what Obama went with and you then came out against it and tried your best to make sure it didn't work

thus leaving you no plan at all to go with for a counter

btw, the defunding of planned parenthood is nothing but a direct attack on women's health.

[sturg33]

7 years and counting and they still don't have a plan

but they are willing to just toss it

it must suck that the plan you came up with in the 90s to counter a public option is what Obama went with and you then came out against it and tried your best to make sure it didn't work

thus leaving you no plan at all to go with for a counter

btw, the defunding of planned parenthood is nothing but a direct attack on women's health.

LOL