Russia Collusion Scandal (aka A Leftist fantasy)

[Hawk]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Then we can just cut and paste each others' posts from the last several months and save ourselves a lot of time.

I deleted them.

[Hawk]

indeed...so what's the holdup

These bureaucratic things take time ... years ... administrations ...

[thethe]

Incredible you guys were connecting the vaguest of dots for the last year and now with actual proof you want to hold off.

Yeah - Nothing partisan happening here.

[goldfly]

Incredible you guys were connecting the vaguest of dots for the last year and now with actual proof you want to hold off.

Yeah - Nothing partisan happening here.

[bravesnumberone]

Vague lol

[bravesnumberone]

Since we have that out of the way point me to the memo. I didn't realize the real evidence had been released yet.

[Julio3000]

Incredible you guys were connecting the vaguest of dots for the last year and now with actual proof you want to hold off.

Yeah - Nothing partisan happening here.

I'm going to summon the most beneficent, objective, and generous answer I can here. [deep breath]

I disagree with your assessment of the "evidence" in the respective cases. I will leave it at that.

The power to recommend an independent counsel rests with the majority of the Judicial Committees. What I think or what congressional Democrats think doesn't mean a thing. Republicans could do it any time they wanted to, if they wanted to. Not too different from how the FISA warrant info could have been publicized months ago, if there were indeed compelling reason to have done so.

Personally, I will take calls for an independent counsel, etc, at face value if there's more information that warrants it and more specific understanding of what's at issue. Right now, what's going on in Congress is pure posturing. Hollering to the cameras about secret societies and insurance policies is some combination of theater and pure, cynical politics.

[thethe]

Vague lol

When your argument is Trump did business with Russians therefore collusion then your case is by definition vague.

[thethe]

I'm going to summon the most beneficent, objective, and generous answer I can here. [deep breath]

I disagree with your assessment of the "evidence" in the respective cases. I will leave it at that.

The power to recommend an independent counsel rests with the majority of the Judicial Committees. What I think or what congressional Democrats think doesn't mean a thing. Republicans could do it any time they wanted to, if they wanted to. Not too different from how the FISA warrant info could have been publicized months ago, if there were indeed compelling reason to have done so.

Personally, I will take calls for an independent counsel, etc, at face value if there's more information that warrants it and more specific understanding of what's at issue. Right now, what's going on in Congress is pure posturing. Hollering to the cameras about secret societies and insurance policies is some combination of theater and pure, cynical politics.

No - It's reporting on the activities of lead investigaors

[bravesnumberone]

When your argument is Trump did business with Russians therefore collusion then your case is by definition vague.

It's almost as if Mueller's investigation isn't active and hasn't produced indictments, guilty pleas and plea deals. It's almost as if he's telling us everything he finds out right away. Meanwhile we await the release of a memo written by a right-wing hack job and/or staff. We haven't seen it yet (maybe soon) but it's REAL.

You would have been a hoot in the Watergate days.

[bravesnumberone]

I'm going to summon the most beneficent, objective, and generous answer I can here. [deep breath]

I disagree with your assessment of the "evidence" in the respective cases. I will leave it at that.

The power to recommend an independent counsel rests with the majority of the Judicial Committees. What I think or what congressional Democrats think doesn't mean a thing. Republicans could do it any time they wanted to, if they wanted to. Not too different from how the FISA warrant info could have been publicized months ago, if there were indeed compelling reason to have done so.

Personally, I will take calls for an independent counsel, etc, at face value if there's more information that warrants it and more specific understanding of what's at issue. Right now, what's going on in Congress is pure posturing. Hollering to the cameras about secret societies and insurance policies is some combination of theater and pure, cynical politics.

Julio, I hope you can see your way to letting this go.

[Hawk]

It's almost as if Mueller's investigation isn't active and hasn't produced indictments, guilty pleas and plea deals. It's almost as if he's telling us everything he finds out right away. Meanwhile we await the release of a memo written by a right-wing hack job and/or staff. We haven't seen it yet (maybe soon) but it's REAL.

You would have been a hoot in the Watergate days.

The caveat, of course, being that these "indictments, guilty pleas, and plea deals" aren't in any evidenced way related to Russian-Trump collusion.

[57Brave]

The caveat, of course, being that these "indictments, guilty pleas, and plea deals" aren't in any evidenced way related to Russian-Trump collusion.

Why then the lies about meeting Russians and subsequent coverup ?

All Trump had to do was take Obama's advise and not hire Flynn

[goldfly]

All Trump had to do was take Obama's advise and not hire Flynn

can't take advice from the black man he hates for no good reason

[Hawk]

Because not hiring Flynn would have prevented this.

Haha. Ok.

[bravesnumberone]

The caveat, of course, being that these "indictments, guilty pleas, and plea deals" aren't in any evidenced way related to Russian-Trump collusion.

If that's really your take, then there's no need for us to do anything but exchange memes. Flynn and Papa-I'm too lazy to spell the rest most certainly are directly related to it and I have more reason than Mark Bowman to believe Manafort and Gates will be tied in as well. I'm sure big Donald can plead ignorance to all of it. You know since he's apparently a mental genius.

[thethe]

Because not hiring Flynn would have prevented this.

Haha. Ok.

Dellusional people.

In th face of mounting evidence of corruption they still hang on to loosely based arguments that have no connection to the underlying claim.

[57Brave]

Because not hiring Flynn would have prevented this.

Haha. Ok.

Of course, Trump fired Comey over Flynn because Flynn is the lynch pin to the Russians
Surprised you would make such a thethe statement

Why are they lying and covering up if this is all about the crooked Hillary's,Obamas and FBI.

Hawk you are siding with conspiracy theories involving the most conservative whitest organization the US government ever created ?
hmm

[Hawk]

If that's really your take, then there's no need for us to do anything but exchange memes. Flynn and Papa-I'm too lazy to spell the rest most certainly are directly related to it and I have more reason than Mark Bowman to believe Manafort and Gates will be tied in as well. I'm sure big Donald can plead ignorance to all of it. You know since he's apparently a mental genius.

My take? Um, PapaD pleaded guilty to lying under oath. Manafort was charged with conspiracy to launder money. And Gates hasn't even cooperated yet.

Sure, you believe these things 'directly relate' to collusion, and you may well be right in the end, but you can't prove it yet in any meaningful or coherent way, and that's the tail that we've been chasing for the past 6 months.

[Hawk]

Of course, Trump fired Comey over Flynn because Flynn is the lynch pin to the Russians
Surprised you would make such a thethe statement

Why are they lying and covering up if this is all about the crooked Hillary's,Obamas and FBI.

Hawk you are siding with conspiracy theories involving the most conservative whitest organization the US government ever created ?
hmm

57, honestly, I have no idea what the **** you are talking about.

Flynn is the lynchpin to the Russians? How?