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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/guyben...-memo-n2441862

    Some seem to believe that there is nothing factually inaccurate about the GOP memo.
    It may be factually accurate (not speaking to conclusions) while also omitting more pertinent facts than it contains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    ...at the same time they were disinclined to comment on a counterintelligence investigation involving the Trump campaign. Yeah, they were definitely in the tank for HRC.
    Hah - Making the argument that they didn't do everything possible to exonerate HRC. What a laugh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    It may be factually accurate (not speaking to conclusions) while also omitting more pertinent facts than it contains.
    And thats why we will have a memo written by house democrats. Can't wait to read it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    And thats why we will have a memo written by house democrats. Can't wait to read it.
    Some talk it may never make it to the public. I doubt that but wouldn't be surprised either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    And thats why we will have a memo written by house democrats. Can't wait to read it.
    It's doubtful that there's going to be a full release of the information, if it's judged to compromise sources and methods...which is one reason this is such a grubby little trick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesnumberone View Post
    Some talk it may never make it to the public. I doubt that but wouldn't be surprised either.
    From what I read the house GOP wanted the dems to remove factual inaccuracies from their memo. Afterwards it will be voted on to be released.
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    Russian News Outlet TASS reports that the Russian Spy Chief, Sergey Naryshkin, who is under US sanctions, entered the US w/ Trump's approval.

    No US officials have mentioned this visit & it appears that TASS released this info to retaliate against Trump's sanctions list
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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    A different view of this would be that DoJ is begging for the opportunity to decide whether to release a memo that may reflect very poorly on DoJ.
    Enough of the nasty underbelly of DC has been exposed that I don't think either view being accurate would surprise me.
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    This is a good peek at the process and the high bar the Nunes memo would have to clear in order to back up its purported implications:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaw View Post
    A different view of this would be that DoJ is begging for the opportunity to decide whether to release a memo that may reflect very poorly on DoJ.
    Enough of the nasty underbelly of DC has been exposed that I don't think either view being accurate would surprise me.
    One is more likely than the other. In judging the integrity of the parties involved, it strikes me that there is a significant difference between Trump and the Trumpophiles on the one hand and the folks at DoJ and FBI on the other. I'm not saying the latter are perfect. But there is no moral equivalence in my book.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    One is more likely than the other. In judging the integrity of the parties involved, it strikes me that there is a significant difference between Trump and the Trumpophiles on the one hand and the folks at DoJ and FBI on the other. I'm not saying the latter are perfect. But there is no moral equivalence in my book.
    That same group that went realnhard on Hillary right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    One is more likely than the other. In judging the integrity of the parties involved, it strikes me that there is a significant difference between Trump and the Trumpophiles on the one hand and the folks at DoJ and FBI on the other. I'm not saying the latter are perfect. But there is no moral equivalence in my book.
    I suppose I'm in the camp that believes the memo may well be both accurate and damaging to DoJ, that there may be very good reasons it shouldn't be released, and that Trump may be willing to put his political gain above the greater good. I'm not sure why anyone places any trust in the DoJ or FBI at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    That same group that went realnhard on Hillary right?
    For which I'm sure Hillary sent them a thank you card.
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    FBI director Christopher Wray has reportedly warned the White House against releasing the classified GOP House Intelligence Committee memo, saying that some of the information in the document is inaccurate.

    Says it "paints a false narrative."

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesnumberone View Post
    FBI director Christopher Wray has reportedly warned the White House against releasing the classified GOP House Intelligence Committee memo, saying that some of the information in the document is inaccurate.

    Says it "paints a false narrative."
    A false narrative and inaccurate are two different things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    A false narrative and inaccurate are two different things.
    which one is worse
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    which one is worse
    Someone claiming something to be a false narrative is injecting subjectivity into the equation. Why is that narrative misleading?

    There is no such grey area with facts.

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