pathetically hilarious to question mueller's character as a trump supporter. just insane.
pathetically hilarious to question mueller's character as a trump supporter. just insane.
"Well, you’ll learn soon enough that this was a massive red wave landslide." - thethe on the 2020 election that trump lost bigly
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bravesnumberone (02-28-2018)
Why when I've also questions trumps?Originally Posted by Super
Natural Immunity Croc
Just a few reminders about Flynn's guilty plea.
1) For a lie to the FBI to be prosecutable it has to be of a material nature. This means it bears on the investigation as opposed to something trivial that does not impede the investigation.
2) The lie was about whether or not he asked Kislyak to refrain from escalating the situation with respect to how Russia would react to Obama's sanctions. Flynn falsely stated he did not ask Kislyak to do this.
3) Flynn also lied about a follow-up conversation with Kislyak in which Kislyak conveyed Russia agreed not to escalate the situation. In pleading guilty, Flynn admitted that this conversation in fact did take place.
4) The plea agreement stipulates additional facts (about other lies and false filings related to his registration as a foreign lobbyist). The stipulation means that Flynn agrees that he told those lies and made those false filings.
It has been asserted that the FBI agents did not think Flynn lied to them. In response to this assertion I would ask the following:
1) Assuming that they did not believe he lied to them, is it their determination to make?
2) Would they have the same information Mueller and his team had? They may not have had the information needed to evaluate the veracity of Flynn's testimony.
3) What are the source(s) behind the claim that the FBI agents did not believe Flynn lied?
4) Flynn faced quite a few other serious charges. He chose to please guilty to those particular charges. If he hadn't he would be looking at far more legal jeopardy.
Last edited by nsacpi; 02-28-2018 at 09:26 AM.
"I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."
"I am your retribution."
source?
"I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."
"I am your retribution."
Runnin (02-28-2018), The Chosen One (02-28-2018)
We would also do well to remember Flynn's own words after he pleaded guilty:
I recognize that the actions I acknowledged in court today were wrong, and, through my faith in God, I am working to set
things right. My guilty plea and agreement to cooperate with the Special Counsel's Office reflect a
decision I made in the best interests of my family and of our country. I accept full responsibility for my
actions.
"I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."
"I am your retribution."
He's a good solider but recent events in the Flynn procedings should inform the country that there is more than meets the eye
Natural Immunity Croc
what recent events
"I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."
"I am your retribution."
Javanka-Kelly death match. Looking for tickets. Willing to pay a premium.
http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...age-of-kushner
"I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."
"I am your retribution."
Judge change
Delay of sentencing
that's it?
"I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."
"I am your retribution."
Yes, it's all explained in detail within an article I linked a couple of weeks ago. Any wager on Flynn walking free with no plea deal necessary?
i take that wager
"I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."
"I am your retribution."
Julio3000 (02-28-2018)
You Trumpers are tough to negotiate with but I'll take a C note of that action via Paypal. onegai shimasu
FFF - BB, BB, 2B, HR, 2B, HR, 1B, BB, BB, 1B, BB, BB, HR
September 17 set as the date for Manafartov trial. This is for the charges where DC is the venue. There are another group of tax-related charges that will be tried in Virginia.
September 17 is an interesting date from a couple of perspectives. It gives Manafartov plenty of time to contemplate his options.
Also ensures the trial will be going on in the runup to the mid-term elections.
One other Manafartov related thought. His bail should be revoked. He is a flight risk. He has violated the judge's orders multiple times. She noted today that the statement he released after Gates entered a guilty plea violated her gag order and reprimanded him for it. His safety might also be at risk. The collateral he has offered for bail looks like it might be subject to claims by various parties. It seems to me there is a good case for locking him up now.
Last edited by nsacpi; 02-28-2018 at 11:29 AM.
"I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."
"I am your retribution."
wooo...sessions fires back...with the secret service have to step in a break it up
"I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."
"I am your retribution."
Now that she's apparently quitting the White House, I think Sav should extent an offer to Hope Hicks for Chopcountry spokesperson.
nsacpi (02-28-2018)
No mention here of 22 charges against Gates being dropped
Hmm
or speculation why ...
Last edited by 57Brave; 02-28-2018 at 07:05 PM.
The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to make sure he doesn’t get a gun.
Think it's a formality as to his plea from last week.
but all of the charges ?
His plea deal was 52-70 months
Mueller dropped all charges if I am reading it right
The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to make sure he doesn’t get a gun.
except the ones he pleaded guilty to
"I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."
"I am your retribution."
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