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Thread: Russia Collusion Scandal (aka A Leftist fantasy)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Runnin View Post
    What logic do you see? I don't see it myself.

    The NYT "Daily" doesn't get into why they were leaked.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/01/podcasts/the-daily/robert-mueller-questions-trump.html
    The fact that the investigation and now these questions lead so far away from what the real investigation was supposed to be about....collusion.

    The American people are tired of this. Either put up or shut up and there are no signs that anything of substance has been found.
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    The prosecutors have to establish motive.
    Under what circumstances would the Trump campaign conspire ( collude) with the Russians ?

    This goes back to the tax returns.
    Did Trump owe them money
    Did the Russians have blackmail material (dossier)
    Did the campaign contact Russians for profit ( Wikileaks )

    In no court of law is it possible a prosecutor walks in with just one piece of evidence that establishes a crime has been committed
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    my question since day one has been --- why do they keep lying about Russia ?

    suppose Trump never hired Michael Flynn
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    The fact that the investigation and now these questions lead so far away from what the real investigation was supposed to be about....collusion.

    The American people are tired of this. Either put up or shut up and there are no signs that anything of substance has been found.
    That's what I thought you'd say.

    The investigator's job is to go where the evidence leads. Obstruction of the original investigation is not "so far away". It's right there in the room.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Runnin View Post
    That's what I thought you'd say.

    The investigator's job is to go where the evidence leads. Obstruction of the original investigation is not "so far away". It's right there in the room.
    Obstruction of a made up crime! Thats going to go real well with the Independents of this country. Doesn't matter what the Trumpies or the Lefties think. The minds were made up years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Obstruction of a made up crime! Thats going to go real well with the Independents of this country. Doesn't matter what the Trumpies or the Lefties think. The minds were made up years ago.
    It would be funny if in the end we find out Trump obstructed justice over a crime he didn't commit. Another unforced error.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    The fact that the investigation and now these questions lead so far away from what the real investigation was supposed to be about....collusion.

    The American people are tired of this. Either put up or shut up and there are no signs that anything of substance has been found.
    Aside from collusion/collaboration there are other potential criminal activities that Mueller's team has come across in the course of their investigation. It is their professional responsibility to investigate these as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    The prosecutors have to establish motive.
    Under what circumstances would the Trump campaign conspire ( collude) with the Russians ?

    This goes back to the tax returns.
    Did Trump owe them money
    Did the Russians have blackmail material (dossier)
    Did the campaign contact Russians for profit ( Wikileaks )

    In no court of law is it possible a prosecutor walks in with just one piece of evidence that establishes a crime has been committed
    It is clearly the kind of complex situation that takes time to investigate thoroughly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Obstruction of a made up crime! Thats going to go real well with the Independents of this country. Doesn't matter what the Trumpies or the Lefties think. The minds were made up years ago.
    It might or might not be a made up crime. But that is for the investigators to decide.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    It might or might not be a made up crime. But that is for the investigators to decide.
    When was the last tmr people even spoke about collusion? The smoking gun now is a meeting to set up communication channels after the election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Runnin View Post
    It would be funny if in the end we find out Trump obstructed justice over a crime he didn't commit. Another unforced error.
    When the coup is at your door you don't lay down. I applaud trump and his team for fighting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    When was the last tmr people even spoke about collusion?
    see post #5126
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    When the coup is at your door you don't lay down. I applaud trump and his team for fighting.
    It is not a coup. It is an investigation authorized by the Deputy Attorney General. Sorry, but I insist on the distinction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    It is not a coup. It is an investigation authorized by the Deputy Attorney General. Sorry, but I insist on the distinction.
    Yada Yada Yada

    It's a coup that has failed

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Yada Yada Yada

    It's a coup that has failed
    it is your choice if you prefer to inhabit a world of alternate facts

    but if Mueller's investigation is a coup...then I suppose we are free to call a rabbit an elephant
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    it is your choice if you prefer to inhabit a world of alternate facts

    but if Mueller's investigation is a coup...then I suppose we are free to call a rabbit an elephant
    You are free to live in a world where you don't see the massive corruption in our government and the world struggle between globalist and populists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    You are free to live in a world where you don't see the massive corruption in our government and the world struggle between globalist and populists.
    what do you make of Kimba Wood presiding over George Soros' wedding
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    what do you make of Kimba Wood presiding over George Soros' wedding
    You know exactly what I think about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    You know exactly what I think about it.
    part of the globalist conspiracy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    part of the globalist conspiracy?
    Keep pretending as if there aren't a collection of powerful people trying to drive agendas to benefit themselves. I'll go ahead and live in the real world.
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